We should ally with the Garleans

[Jinrya-Geki]

Anyone is better the losers leading Eorzea.

Garleans have their priorities straight. Which is more than what we can say about the leaders of Eorzea.

[Xanikk999]

Anyone is better the losers leading Eorzea.

Garleans have their priorities straight. Which is more than what we can say about the leaders of Eorzea.

Exactly! Let's take the Gridanians for example. If I knew anything about this game when I first started playing it I would not have chosen Gridania as my starting city. I hate it and everything it stands for. They are full of slavish treehuggers who submit to elementals who they worship. Simply absurd!

[Assirra]

Anyone is better the losers leading Eorzea.

Garleans have their priorities straight. Which is more than what we can say about the leaders of Eorzea.

Yea straight priorities.

Like world conquest.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Yea straight priorities.

Like world conquest.

Almost sounds like a certain group in a certain war in real life when you think about it

[Evangela]

If it's the same as Type-0 empire... the empire's goal might be the best way to end the world from suffering, which is eliminating all the deities and free us from them.

oh wait... it's the same in most FF games. and might be the best solution for our real world too.

[Belhi]

Exactly! Let's take the Gridanians for example. If I knew anything about this game when I first started playing it I would not have chosen Gridania as my starting city. I hate it and everything it stands for. They are full of slavish treehuggers who submit to elementals who they worship. Simply absurd!

You do realise that the last time people pissed off the elementals it triggered the 6th Umbral Era right? Its their forest. You either do things their way, you leave or you die. Or you live underground the whole time. The Gridanians are just tenants.

[Velox]

Exactly! Let's take the Gridanians for example. If I knew anything about this game when I first started playing it I would not have chosen Gridania as my starting city. I hate it and everything it stands for. They are full of slavish treehuggers who submit to elementals who they worship. Simply absurd!

If you played through some of the 1.0 story, you'd understand that the elementals are not ones to be f*cked with. Also remember that a single elemental caused a calamity. Elementals are the most powerful things on the planet that actually exist (and not require aether to sustain said existence like primals or the twelve).

[Shalan]

The empire to this very day is STILL expanding its influence and territory into other lands. Ala Migho and Doma fell to the empire, forcing its people to flee or die trying to fight them off.

An empire is generally a massive thing made up of subjugated populations. The moment it stops moving and conquering is the moment that the cracks in its foundations really start to damage the overall structure.
An empire must be conquering in order to bring in more money, resources, slaves, and give reasons for new technologies. The Garleans, like the Romans, use subjugated populations to man their armies, sending them far from their homes as an Empire unit to fight other nations in order to both prevent unrest in their home areas as well as show them the superiority of their own culture and technology so those subjugated populations they have fighting may one day join the empire proper. Many of those Garlean troops probably don't even want to be there, but if they don't fight their families will likely be raped, slaughtered, and enslaved.

So of course they're going to continue expanding their influence. It's literally expand or die a slow death for them which can leave some places in worse shape than before the empire came as they'll have grown too dependent on the empire.



I would simply like to play in the Empire because I like empires. Empires tend to be more organized, make many large and fascinating structures as shows of power, leave a bigger impact on the world, and are constantly moving and improving on themselves to stay in the game. Yes, they usually commit atrocities in the process of expansion but just about every nation and country in history, both in game and IRL has. If we want to sling stuff around about being evil, I guess we stop playing from Ul'Dah, what with enslaving giants and undead dust and all.

In the end though it's not a matter of them being good, bad, evil, or worth siding with. I just want to be a part of that machine that fascinates me so.

[Xanikk999]

If you played through some of the 1.0 story, you'd understand that the elementals are not ones to be f*cked with. Also remember that a single elemental caused a calamity. Elementals are the most powerful things on the planet that actually exist (and not require aether to sustain said existence like primals or the twelve).

I still don't like the slavish "servants of the elementals" archetype they have.

[Xanikk999]

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The roman empire is the well known empire like you stated but it is hardly the typical case. They needed to keep expanding otherwise they wouldn't be able to support their lifestyle and pay their legions. Without the plunder economy they relied on they would have dissolved into civil war much sooner.

However that isn't the only way an empire can function. They can expand to a certain point and stop expanding without imploding on itself, not right away anyway. The Ottoman empire would be a very good example of that. They stopped expanding after the 17th century but they had at least 2 centuries of relative peace before their territory started fracturing starting with Greece. The point I am trying to make is an empire can exist without a plunder economy like the romans.