Red Mage (Tank) Please!

[cold52]

yall know tank really is the closest thing that makes sence for a red mage think about it.

a red mage is known for its ability to use both white magic and black magic while still using a melee weapon.

no other role suits that better then tank

white magic for defensive skills and heal skills
black magic for its offensive skills or buffs

then it still has room for its melee skills

all it would need then is something to help make it stand out between the other tanks.

now of course people dont wanna see it end up as a tank but ya know thats what was said about warrior and dark knight but at the end of the day if square makes it that way thats the way it will be.

also it will amuse me to see all of the red mage jokes about there role icon being blue if it happened. >

[Duelle]

yall know tank really is the closest thing that makes sence for a red mage

a red mage is known for its ability to use both white magic and black magic while still using a melee weapon.

no other role suits that better then tank

Generally wearing light armor is a no-go as a tank, and I'd expect RDM to be sharing gear with BRD of it scales with DEX or DRG if it scales with STR (MNK aesthetic doesn't really gel with RDM). Most of the stuff that makes sense for RDM as far as defensive spells go would be more towards defensive utility. Think of Phalanx not as a spell you use on yourself, but something you can throw on the tank or a healer taking too much damage, reducing their damage taken by something like 25% for 10 seconds. Off-heals would work along similar lines, as something you'd throw around if needed while sacrificing DPS.

Sword skills and magical attacks could thus go towards dealing good DPS, leading to a DPS job that has utility while still being different from its peers. You don't need to shoehorn the job into tanking.

[Yaichiro]

I like the idea of support tank. Perhaps make RDM an evasive tank due to the nature of thier playstyle and attire.

[Sapphic]

I like the idea of support tank. Perhaps make RDM an evasive tank due to the nature of thier playstyle and attire.

Evasion tanks are either stupidly OP, as in the evade every big hit. Or totally useless as they may evade a hit, but depending on RNG eat the full damage and go splat.

[cold52]

all im hearing is

"I dont like red mage as a tank so it wont happen"

again saying that you don't like it doesn't mean it doesn't make sence or more importantly wont happen as has been proven several times already.

just because people see it as a particular role doesnt mean it will be that role

honestly id hardly be surprised if it was a caster, meele, or a healer but as far as i can think of theres no way any of those roles will truly make a red mage close to what it been known for make it a caster and you lose it healing and most of its support, make it a healer and you lose most of its dps not to mention you absolutely loose it melee dps, make it a melee dps theres almost no casted abilities at all since it would be too hard to make it possible to use spells that arent instant and can we really call those spells (looking at you dark knight).

with a tank ALL THOSE THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.

also on a side note to those saying anything about making an evasive tank is a good idea? hell no the tanking meta in this game is all about big predictable hits the only things that youd actually important enough to matter are all impossible to dodge and for anything else it either it doesnt even hurt you enough to matter.

Edit: and before anyone catches me with the whole but you just said dark knights spells arent spells so your contradicting yourself, no not really its just dark knight wasnt given any actual spells on the other side of the coin paladin did with clemency. and there are plenty of ways to make it possible without just making them instant use buttons perhaps something like a hold to charge the spell which could determine the output of the spell and its cost.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

all im hearing is

"I dont like red mage as a tank so it wont happen"

again saying that you don't like it doesn't mean it doesn't make sence or more importantly wont happen as has been proven several times already.

just because people see it as a particular role doesnt mean it will be that role

honestly id hardly be surprised if it was a caster, meele, or a healer but as far as i can think of theres no way any of those roles will truly make a red mage close to what it been known for make it a caster and you lose it healing and most of its support, make it a healer and you lose most of its dps not to mention you absolutely loose it melee dps, make it a melee dps theres almost no casted abilities at all since it would be too hard to make it possible to use spells that arent instant and can we really call those spells (looking at you dark knight).

with a tank ALL THOSE THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.

Exactly! I hope more people get aware! =)