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    Tetsu Taru
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    I'd be ok with it as either a tank or dps(more in the support dps side analgous to brd/mch) but really hope it's not a healer.

    I think support/utility dps (give it some combo of: instant cast procs for magic off of a weapon combo/cast times for fighting from range, enspells, enspikes, some light healing/battle raise/tp&mp refresh) is the best option, as I'd rather see blue mage take the mana tank role.
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I'd cry a little if RDM was only just a tank, but that's just me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    You could only do that if the DPS held back. Even 'proper' tanks had difficulty holding back aggro from many DPS in the late game simply because of the crazy damage they could output. Red Mage wasn't terrible in the aggro stakes, but there wasn't much enmity gear to go around for them, and they had limited strength since you would basically NEED sub war for provoke which killed some of your magical potential.
    Enmity was an issue for every single tank, since it had a hard ceiling and DDs eventually overgeared compared to that ceiling.

    As for RDM tanking, it boiled down to RDM/NIN for shadows and rotating cures and debuffs. Rotating debuffs for enmity was so good that SE nerfed the hell out of to end that practice. Sub WAR was only ever for goofing around or certain melee builds.
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  3. #23
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    I'd be ok with it as either a tank or dps(more in the support dps side analgous to brd/mch) but really hope it's not a healer.

    I think support/utility dps (give it some combo of: instant cast procs for magic off of a weapon combo/cast times for fighting from range, enspells, enspikes, some light healing/battle raise/tp&mp refresh) is the best option, as I'd rather see blue mage take the mana tank role.
    We already have Bard and Machinist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Natandalus View Post
    And.. Yoshi P said originally he was considering Samurai or Dark as the next tank, they went with Dark but i imagine sam will still be a tank.
    Funny, I heard they were gonna be DPS. Also, why do we have another two-handed sword Tank?
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 08-29-2015 at 08:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    We already have Bard and Machinist.
    And we already have Paladin, Dark Knight and Warrior. As i said, we don't need another tank, over the obvious caster choice, You do understand the 3 vs 2 ratio, right?

    If anything Blue mage would take this role anyway, Not RDM.
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    Zeon Darksol
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    watch redmage be a support job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    And we already have Paladin, Dark Knight and Warrior. As i said, we don't need another tank, over the obvious caster choice, You do understand the 3 vs 2 ratio, right?

    If anything Blue mage would take this role anyway, Not RDM.
    This one gets it
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    Anna Dovetail
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    I wouldn't say in FFXI that red mage was a tank. It was more of a kiter/soloer it had some utility for tanking but so does ninja in FFXIV with a damage down ability. It being called a tank is a terrible idea it will likely be a caster but i hope it will be a magic melee dps that i think would be interesting.
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    And.. Yoshi P said originally he was considering Samurai or Dark as the next tank, they went with Dark but i imagine sam will still be a tank.
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    Caidyn Svalinn
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    Nah.

    Melee/caster hybrid DPS, where it belongs. We have enough tanking jobs at the moment. If anything, with the current raiding format, a new Healer would be more welcome.

    RAID JOBS
    3 Tanks 3 Tanks
    6 Healers 3 Healers
    14 DPS 7 DPS

    Let's get some variety out there. There's a lot of great potential in these new jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    No, We were already disappointed (well i was anyway) that DRK, which should have been a DPS job was turned into a Tank. the LAST thing i want to see is a RDM tank..IF anything it needs to be a caster type.

    If they are going to come up with a new tank job it needs to be something new or older game jobs, like Rune Fencer. (which would sound like a Rdm the way you are describing)
    Dancer was a great melee healer in ffxi, Rdm could be a elemental based melee or we could use Geomancer like it was in Tactics. Sam in ffxi was a melee that could temp for the tank with certain abilities if stuff hit the fan. Love Samurai.
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