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    Kikoten's Avatar
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    Lucky Tails
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't...

    (ARR 2.5 spoiler ahead)

    ...Ilberd's energy wave during his fight with Raubahn a hint at how they plan to make the Red Mage, considering they even add that job?
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    Three Ilm Knights, One Thousand Malm Road

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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Red Mage being a tank would allow people who like the casting play-style of classes play it. We need different kinds of tanks and honestly, War/DRK/PLD play close. Warrior is the only one that is a bit more complex with its use of Vengeance and Defiance stacks. Dark Knights are "NOT" caster tanks, they do not "CAST" anything, they are "Magic" Defense Tanks.

    I want a "Caster" Tank, because the play-style isn't in the game yet and the only Mage that really fits it is the jack of all trades Red Mage.

    Not only does it sound cool, it would look cool as well because honestly what I see of a Red Mage is:

    "A leader who uses a rapier and dances across the battlefield casting healing and damage spells."

    Which means, he may in fact be more up close and personal then the other casters. Which makes him the perfect tank.

    He may not wear as heavy armor as the other tanks, but he makes up for it with Earth and Wind magic making it easier for him to block attacks with each and enhance his body and use the wind to increase his evasion. He also has a magic shield which he can switch on and off.

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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 08-29-2015 at 03:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Red Mage being a tank would allow people who like the casting play-style of classes play it. We need different kinds of tanks and honestly, War/DRK/PLD play close. Warrior is the only one that is a bit more complex with its use of Vengeance and Defiance stacks. Dark Knights are "NOT" caster tanks, they do not "CAST" anything, they are "Magic" Defense Tanks.
    I want a "Caster" Tank, because the play-style isn't in the game yet and the only Mage that really fits it is the jack of all trades Red Mage.
    Actually, Blue mage, as it's already been said, would fit this nich better, Not red mage, Because of how it has been worked in the past. Red mage will not fit well as a tank of any kind.

    Not only does it sound cool, it would look cool as well because honestly what I see of a Red Mage is:

    "A leader who uses a rapier and dances across the battlefield casting healing and damage spells."
    You even just proved it here, "healing and damage spells" healer or DPS. but since we already have new healer, where does that fit rdm? caster DPS. or a melee mage. (best fit)

    Which means, he may in fact be more up close and personal then the other casters. Which makes him the perfect tank.
    I don't know why you so badly want rdm to be a tank. but this simply will not work.

    He may not wear as heavy armor as the other tanks, but he makes up for it with Earth and Wind magic making it easier for him to block attacks with each and enhance his body and use the wind to increase his evasion. He also has a magic shield which he can switch on and off.
    Incase you didn't know, once apon a time Ninja has this ability that made them evade all physcial attacks for 5 whole seconds, Guess what they did? they butcherd it, now it's a crappy 20% damage reduction instead. Clearly, evasion tanks are never going to happen. They already learned that lesson from FFXI.
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    No, thanks. Healers have enough problem with weak tanks who think they're cool wearing Str accessories and show off their useless damage dealing.

    better concept for RDM should be a DPS that can do both melee and ranged magic, and also healing. that's what the real red mages do, not tanking.
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Tank is the most boring role in MMO. please don't waste good jobs like Red Mage, Samurai, and Mystic Knight for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Tank is the most boring role in MMO. please don't waste good jobs like Red Mage, Samurai, and Mystic Knight for it.
    ...thats an obvious reason why they need to make the jobs that are well loved into tanks while it will reduce the overall amount of people who will main it, it will more then likely catch people's eyes and increase the amount of tanks even if its only slightly.

    or ya know what lets just forget about making tanks lets just make everyone dps so know one is the boring role, but ya know good luck with the surviving the tough boss if he decides to target you. D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by cold52 View Post
    ...thats an obvious reason why they need to make the jobs that are well loved into tanks while it will reduce the overall amount of people who will main it, it will more then likely catch people's eyes and increase the amount of tanks even if its only slightly.
    you already have Dark Knight, a potential job for DPS role, and it's a waste already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Tank is the most boring role in MMO.
    That's just like, your opinion, man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    That's just like, your opinion, man.
    which is the truth anyway.
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    Tamako Lalako
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I feel like Paladin is our caster tank. Red Mage would be an awesome Melee caster IMO.
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