Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[Dervy]

Uh, if Judge_Xeros quick test has anything to say, DET is much more valuable to a Machinist than any other job. DET Scales more on Auto-Turrets than it does for AAs and WS's. If your Auto-Turrets "function" similarly to an Auto-Attack whilst in GB, then I can definitely see DET being in the 0.15 range, compared to 0.14 for all other jobs such as the Dragoon, Monk and Bard.

Of course I need a lot more Data to verify this... But it's just something interesting.

And I've always said SS won't be 0.020. It was never that low to begin with. If anything, it's 0.09 -> 0.11.

[Griffeth]

Thanks for the input Dervy. Im going to try to get some testing done this weekend for stat weights for us.

[Dervy]

I just need Auto-Turret data, a lot of it, so I can see how stats scale. If anything, the Machinist should scale stats similarly the Bard, if I know my stuff correctly, so I can just use the same Damage Formula (which, coincidently, is the same as the Dragoon)...

Once I've got Auto-Turret data and done a lot of research on how Machinist works, and gotten my "Simulator" done for it...

Sadly, I said end of August to get weights done for Jobs... Looks like Summoner and Machinist will be a lot longer cause of pets

[Judge_Xero]

If anyone is doing some Turret testing, pay special attention to Skill Speed. I know I said it looks like it doesn't effect attack speed, but after testing a bit on SMN pets, it could just be that it's such a small increase that it could be overlooked, so I wouldn't completely rule it out yet.

[Velhart]

I am debating with myself on what pieces I should get for my character next. I have bought the gun, body, and hands(for now). I see a lot of gear choices I have greatly drop my determination, possibly down below 400, but a much larger favor in Crit and naturally more DEX. You think it is worth dropping determination that low for crit or should I look at this from a different angle? Any feedback is appreciated.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...racter/869828/

[Judge_Xero]

I am debating with myself on what pieces I should get for my character next. I have bought the gun, body, and hands(for now). I see a lot of gear choices I have greatly drop my determination, possibly down below 400, but a much larger favor in Crit and naturally more DEX. You think it is worth dropping determination that low for crit or should I look at this from a different angle? Any feedback is appreciated.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...racter/869828/

Basically whatever gets you closer to this

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/R4J3

[Velhart]

Basically whatever gets you closer to this

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/R4J3

Yea that is the same BiS I have. More of the question was the gear I pick out -right now- and the following few weeks is going to bring my DET very low. Everything will fall in place -eventually-, but very low DET will be a thing for a while. How much will very low DET affect the process of getting to BiS is what I am trying to ask.

[zandervont]

been testing this opener in a3s, been getting 8,5k WFs without drg (top one being 9,1k):
quick reload to V
2s to pull
Gauss Round
hyper + b4b
hot shot
raging + eye
lead shot
rapid + pot
split
WF
slug
Rico
split
reassemble
clean
reload
slug
blank + graze
clean
quick
continue normal...

[Haxetc]

I just need 2 ammo to start in a3s. Found that if I pop reload late due to 5 ammo opener it won't be up the second time when I need it to be which is very iritating.

[Greywolfamakir]

been testing this opener in a3s, been getting 8,5k WFs without drg (top one being 9,1k):
quick reload to V
2s to pull
Gauss Round
hyper + b4b
hot shot
raging + eye
lead shot
rapid + pot
split
WF
slug
Rico
split
reassemble
clean
reload
slug
blank + graze
clean
quick
continue normal...

The first Clean Shot is losing 20 potency because no ammo up when You use it.
This clean shot is the highest hit of the opener, You should use it with Ammo.