Please consider changing the role of normal mode Alexander in future patches

[Renault]

I know the time of savage raiders having to farm Alexander normal has passed, but I really, really, really do not want to do that again.

I'm fine with normal mode existing, I really am, but PLEASE, do not make me farm that boring junk for 4 weekly lockouts again.

Either make it so that people already doing savage do not need the gear (ie: the gear dropped from normal Alexander '2' is i200 or i205 equivalent), or make it drop no gear at all like the rest of the story mode content.

If you're not going to make the less-skilled/dedicated players do Savage to get the story, please consider not making us Savage raiders do the normal mode to get the gear.

Edit: BEFORE YOU POST, READ THIS: I'm not proposing we remove the current loot, or change the current tier! Please comprehend this point: I do not want to grind the normal mode of the NEXT TIER OF ALEXANDER to be able to do savage when it is released in 3.2. Why do I get the feeling people here only read the title of the thread before posting?

[Colorful]

My suggestion is to make them share lockouts, and make it so gear from NM Alexander isn't required to beat Savage Alex along with whatever the next tomestone gear is. That way they can't complain about having to do Alex normal, and if they did it's just because they aren't skilled enough to beat it without the extra gear.

[Itseotle]

I don't mind the farming but I do mind missing the surprise factor of clearing a new floor for the first time. It kind of takes away a little bit of the victory from clearing a savage boss for the first time that you already know what's next

[Renault]

My suggestion is to make them share lockouts, and make it so gear from NM Alexander isn't required to beat Savage Alex along with whatever the next tomestone gear is. That way they can't complain about having to do Alex normal, and if they did it's just because they aren't skilled enough to beat it without the extra gear.

Gonna respectfully disagree with you on this one, and here's why:

What if a progression savage raider -wants- to do Alexander normal to gear their alt or help their friends? While I still stand by my opinion that normal mode, if it's going to be on the same level of difficulty as story mode content, should not drop gear, I don't think forcing players to do one or the other is a good solution.

[LazyC]

I don't mind the farming but I do mind missing the surprise factor of clearing a new floor for the first time. It kind of takes away a little bit of the victory from clearing a savage boss for the first time that you already know what's next

yeah agreed 100%, nothing felt as great as when my group finally beat FCoB turn 12 and getting to see what follows, made finally beating that particular fight so rewarding, i kept myself from spoiling what had happened the entire time till we had beaten it.

13 not nearly as much cause what followed was just a conclusion, but working all that way and finally unlocking turn 13 and getting the story felt great

[Renault]

I don't mind the farming but I do mind missing the surprise factor of clearing a new floor for the first time. It kind of takes away a little bit of the victory from clearing a savage boss for the first time that you already know what's next

Yep, I feel the same way on the whole 'wow' factor aspect of raiding and taking down bosses. So, would you agree that adding the normal/story mode after savage statics were given a fair chance to clear and experience the raid would be a good idea?

[Nadirah]

Yep, I feel the same way on the whole 'wow' factor aspect of raiding and taking down bosses. So, would you agree that adding the normal/story mode after savage statics were given a fair chance to clear and experience the raid would be a good idea?

No.

Unless of course y'all really liked the idea of going in a raid designed for ~195 at 183 like if Normal didn't exist.

In WoW, Mythic releases at the same time LFR does. You want to do it that way, go for it.

Staggering wing release won't work until full raids have more than four bosses because even *they* release 3 bosses at a time most of the time.

Most hardcore raiders don't raid for story anyway.

[Renault]

No.

Unless of course y'all really liked the idea of going in a raid designed for ~195 at 183 like if Normal didn't exist.

In WoW, Mythic releases at the same time LFR does. You want to do it that way, go for it.

Staggering wing release won't work until full raids have more than four bosses because even *they* release 3 bosses at a time most of the time.

Most hardcore raiders don't raid for story anyway.

Why do you think it would be tuned in such a way that it'd expect savage raiders to need the gear from normal, where in this scenario it's released at a later date?

Also, I don't really care so much for the story, I just don't want to be forced to raid the same boss model 10-30 times before doing it on savage.

[FallenArisen0990]

I think it's just fine. This is what people wanted so I don't see the issue.

[Nadirah]

Why do you think it would be tuned in such a way that it'd expect savage raiders to need the gear from normal, where in this scenario it's released at a later date?

Also, I don't really care so much for the story, I just don't want to be forced to raid the same boss model 10-30 times before doing it on savage.

You're not.

Get your esoteric gear.