Please consider changing the role of normal mode Alexander in future patches

[Nadirah]

Yep, I feel the same way on the whole 'wow' factor aspect of raiding and taking down bosses. So, would you agree that adding the normal/story mode after savage statics were given a fair chance to clear and experience the raid would be a good idea?

No.

Unless of course y'all really liked the idea of going in a raid designed for ~195 at 183 like if Normal didn't exist.

In WoW, Mythic releases at the same time LFR does. You want to do it that way, go for it.

Staggering wing release won't work until full raids have more than four bosses because even *they* release 3 bosses at a time most of the time.

Most hardcore raiders don't raid for story anyway.

[Renault]

No.

Unless of course y'all really liked the idea of going in a raid designed for ~195 at 183 like if Normal didn't exist.

In WoW, Mythic releases at the same time LFR does. You want to do it that way, go for it.

Staggering wing release won't work until full raids have more than four bosses because even *they* release 3 bosses at a time most of the time.

Most hardcore raiders don't raid for story anyway.

Why do you think it would be tuned in such a way that it'd expect savage raiders to need the gear from normal, where in this scenario it's released at a later date?

Also, I don't really care so much for the story, I just don't want to be forced to raid the same boss model 10-30 times before doing it on savage.

[Itachi]

Also, I don't really care so much for the story, I just don't want to be forced to raid the same boss model 10-30 times before doing it on savage.

No one is forcing you. However, if you want to raid at bleeding edge level, you are expected to make sacrifices for the guild.

Raiding the same boss model on normal difficulty 10-30 times for gear is one of those.
Even if Alex Savage came out 2 weeks before normal mode, you would still be required to raid Alex normal to fill corresponding item slots to progress on Alex savage 3 and 4.

And Alex normal not dropping gear is a douche thing to ask for and it's not going to happen.

[FallenArisen0990]

I think it's just fine. This is what people wanted so I don't see the issue.

[Renault]

I think it's just fine. This is what people wanted so I don't see the issue.

And that's totally cool, everyone has their own opinion! So as someone who is fine with the way it is, and enjoys the normal mode content: would you be okay with it coming our later than savage, or not rewarding high level gear, so that those that want a challenge are not forced to farm the normal mode first?

[FallenArisen0990]

Would you be okay with it coming out later than savage, or not rewarding high level gear, so that those that want a challenge are not forced to farm the normal mode first?

It was like this for 2.xx. Many endured it and moved on. Now that the role is reversed, it's an issue.

[Renault]

It was like this for 2.xx. Many endured it and moved on. Now that the role is reversed, it's an issue.

Uh, it was endured and they moved on? No, you're being delusional again. It was bitched about so much that they changed it to what it is now, lol. Also...It was not like this for 2.xx so I'm not sure I follow, or you're confused.

Also, it's not so much an 'issue' as it is 'something I personally would like to see change'. I'm not sitting hear furiously typing about how I'm going to un-sub to the game if I don't get it my way.

[FallenArisen0990]

It was not like this for 2.xx so I'm not sure I follow, or you're confused.

Also, it's not so much an 'issue' as it is 'something I personally would like to see change'. I'm not sitting hear furiously typing about how I'm going to un-sub to the game if I don't get it my way.

SE's first mistake was gating story behind Coil. Of course it was gonna spiral out of control with nerfs. As it is, Savage still gives the highest iLv currently and is still needed to upgrade Eso gear (atm). You're only forced to do Normal once for Savage unlock so again I see no issue. Casuals got their Normal and Hardcore got their Savage. What you also seem to be missing is the fact we are still on 3.0x, of course there isn't gonna be a lot of ways to gear up.

[Nadirah]

Why do you think it would be tuned in such a way that it'd expect savage raiders to need the gear from normal, where in this scenario it's released at a later date?

Also, I don't really care so much for the story, I just don't want to be forced to raid the same boss model 10-30 times before doing it on savage.

You're not.

Get your esoteric gear.