What does everyone think about those AST buffs?

[Khyan]

I'd recommend putting the same on your SCH that you have with AST as that'll make the ilvls the same. Always test like for like if you want to prove something or the test is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

Also I would recommend you state any MND difference between the two jobs as Eudyptes has stated a 12 MND difference in her test and it would probably be prudent for you to do the same.

I'm not trying to take sides in this, just trying to find truth and would appreciate any assistance as I can't actually play the game at this time.

Actually, ast ilvl is lower than my scholar ilvl. If the scholar ilvl was the same, it will be even more weaker...

AST MND = 928
SCH MND = 938

I just prove AST normal shield is better.

[Ghishlain]

Actually, ast ilvl is lower than my scholar ilvl. If the scholar ilvl was the same, it will be even more weaker...

Yeah, I typed that poorly.

I imagine your AST gear set is Gordian / Law gear. I'd recommend putting that on your SCH and redoing the test to equalize the ilvls. Try to equalize the MND too just for a perfectly equal test.

I just prove AST normal shield is better.

We're talking eHP / total potency here, not total shielding. It's a small but important semantic to the discussion.

Based on your post:

AST shield with hive weapon and no eso stuffs (ilvl 183) = 1825 + 30% = ~2372
SCH simple adlo shield with hive weapon and a few eso stuffs (ilvl 186) = ~2145

AST @ i183 has a total eHP of 4197
SCH @ i186 has a total eHP of 4290

[Khyan]

Yeah, I typed that poorly.

I imagine your AST gear set is Gordian / Law gear. I'd recommend putting that on your SCH and redoing the test to equalize the ilvls. Try to equalize the MND too just for a perfectly equal test.

AST MND = 928
SCH MND = 938


SCH still have better ilvl. SCH have better stats and still have the weakest non-crit shield. My conclusion is, AST shield is better than adlo without crit.

[Ghishlain]

AST MND = 928
SCH MND = 938

DET is almost identical.

SCH still have better ilvl. SCH have better stats and still have the weakest non-crit shield.

Again, we're not talking about only the shield aspect of the math. We're talking about the entire potency of both spells. The shield is only one aspect of two similar spells.

[Khyan]

Again, we're not talking about only the shield aspect of the math. We're talking about the entire potency of both spells. The shield is only one aspect of two similar spells.

AST MND = 928
SCH MND = 938

AST DET = 344
SCH DET = 356

If AST is a total eHP of 4197 and SCH 4290, I think even with the entire potency it's still better : My AST lack 10MND and 12DET points.