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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffeth View Post
    Lots of people viewing the document so far. Any and all feedback on it is appreciated so feel free to let me know what we would like changed or what you guys want different. A lot of the initial information is from the first page guide and I will be working to customize it and change up some of the formatting.
    I found something "bad" in the BiS list.
    Head slot, BiS list pick Machinist's Goggles, when Gordian Hood Of Aiming is better by far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    I found something "bad" in the BiS list.
    Head slot, BiS list pick Machinist's Goggles, when Gordian Hood Of Aiming is better by far.
    Good job on posting any reason why you think that. How about you explain how 21 crit beats 58 sks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxetc View Post
    Good job on posting any reason why you think that. How about you explain how 21 crit beats 58 sks.
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    Tentative Stat Weights (3.01)

    w/ GB
    WD - 10.71
    Dexterity - 1.000
    Determination - 0.125
    Critical Hit Rate - 0.140
    Skill Speed - 0.020
    17 Critical Hit Rate * 0.140 = 2.38 (tentative value)
    58 Skill Speed * 0.020 = 1.16 (tentative value)

    To be honest, I don't need to do this maths...Crit beats pretty hard SS currently.

    That's why it's better Gordian Hood Of Aiming than Machinist's Goggles.

    But Machinist's Goggles look awesome .
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    Last edited by Greywolfamakir; 08-26-2015 at 09:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
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    17 Critical Hit Rate * 0.140 = 2.38 (tentative value)
    58 Skill Speed * 0.020 = 1.16 (tentative value)

    To be honest, I don't need to do this maths...Crit beats pretty hard SS currently.

    That's why it's better Gordian Hood Of Aiming than Machinist's Goggles.

    But Machinist's Goggles look awesome .
    That value for SKS is outdated and most likely down incorrectly. I highly doubt SKS comes out to be a .020 weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    That value for SKS is outdated and most likely down incorrectly. I highly doubt SKS comes out to be a .020 weight.
    Starting to think SkS might be higher than Det right now due to Wildfire and the 3.05 opener so we can eke in a Split shot or two after the final Clean shot in the opener.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    I found something "bad" in the BiS list.
    Head slot, BiS list pick Machinist's Goggles, when Gordian Hood Of Aiming is better by far.
    Its the same dex, a 17 crit difference and I do not believe we need the accuracy so that is wasted as far as the itemization budget goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffeth View Post
    Its the same dex, a 17 crit difference and I do not believe we need the accuracy so that is wasted as far as the itemization budget goes.
    You need roughly 640 accuracy to meet the AS4 frontal accuracy cap. The build listed in the guide for 3.05 is the perfect BiS build we should be going for. You can eat Baked Pipira for AS4 and Morel Salad for every other turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffeth View Post
    Its the same dex, a 17 crit difference and I do not believe we need the accuracy so that is wasted as far as the itemization budget goes.
    Crit > Skill Speed & Det by far.

    17 crit > 58 Skill Speed.
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    Last edited by Greywolfamakir; 08-25-2015 at 05:55 PM.