Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[FantasyForever]

Did a 11330 Wildfire the other day during A2S. Going to guess it was only that high because of the debuff from the walker.

[Velhart]

Did a 11330 Wildfire the other day during A2S. Going to guess it was only that high because of the debuff from the walker.

Yes, but 11,330 is still a pretty good number in that situation.

[Cloacers]

I have terrible latency that's been making me realize that MCH may not be the class for me, and a glut of skill speed makes this even worse.
Is there anything I can do to make the class play a little easier considering I've already spent 6 weeks of esoterics on it, or am I stuck in gcd clipping purgatory? I play on ps4 so it isn't possible for me to grab wtfast or anything similar. Should I try and figure out a less optimal opener that suffers less from gcd clipping and input delay or should I pack up my antiquated ferdinand and shed a barrel of tears?

[Judge_Xero]

I have terrible latency that's been making me realize that MCH may not be the class for me, and a glut of skill speed makes this even worse.
Is there anything I can do to make the class play a little easier considering I've already spent 6 weeks of esoterics on it, or am I stuck in gcd clipping purgatory? I play on ps4 so it isn't possible for me to grab wtfast or anything similar. Should I try and figure out a less optimal opener that suffers less from gcd clipping and input delay or should I pack up my antiquated ferdinand and shed a barrel of tears?

I would say, that you should just adjust for the latency. Outside of Wildfire there isn't much that can greatly reduce your DPS as MCN.

With the changes to QR, you will almost always have a Slug/Clean proc to weave in your CD skills if the latency causes issues seeing the proc early, or even if you have bad animation clipping of your skills.

[Griffeth]

I have terrible latency that's been making me realize that MCH may not be the class for me, and a glut of skill speed makes this even worse.
Is there anything I can do to make the class play a little easier considering I've already spent 6 weeks of esoterics on it, or am I stuck in gcd clipping purgatory? I play on ps4 so it isn't possible for me to grab wtfast or anything similar. Should I try and figure out a less optimal opener that suffers less from gcd clipping and input delay or should I pack up my antiquated ferdinand and shed a barrel of tears?

Have you checked to make sure its just latency and not a connection drop? Also are you playing on WiFi or do you have a wired connection?

[Myon88]

GCD clipping, at least the kind of clipping where you frequently get your actions interrupted with a "You can't execute that action" message tends to, in my experience, be more a function of packet loss than latency itself. I get 200+ms myself but it has not gotten in the way of savage progression or high percentile parses. That said, there are some ways you can mitigate the effects of this, short of getting a more stable connection or moving to PC.

Don't spam your skills, move through your rotation like you're playing DDR where you press each button exactly once. Reason being, when your connection is unstable it will occasionally let you submit a execute command for a skill before you're actually allowed to it, and it's not until it gets to the server that it get sorted out and you get a "You can't execute that action" error.

Imagine the brackets as the GCD window of a skill and the letters as the respective skills.

Your input: AAAAAAABBBBBBBB
Result: [A-------------][B---------------]

When your connection is stable, even when you spam an input for skill B ahead of time, it will simply disregard all the B inputs that occur while A's GCD is still resolving, and queue up both skills nicely one after each other.

Your input: AAAAAAABBBBBBBB
Result: [A--------[B---]-----------------]

With an unstable connection though, it will sometimes make the mistake of letting you fire B off early and you will get an error once the server verifies the timestamps and realizes you executed an impossible action. This is why sometimes when chaining a lot of ogcds, it feels like you randomly have a faster GCD than normal until you get hit by the "You can't execute that action" message shortly after.

What you can do at least is not spam skill inputs, get a good feel for how long 2.5s is and manually hit each skill exactly once to execute it and it will cut down on the instances of this happening.

[Kiara]

BTW, should someone start a new thread for Machinists so that the Original Post can be edited with the latest and greatest info?

Since it seems like the OP in this thread has stopped updating it. (BLM and DRG Threads all ended up being restarted with new threads in 3.0)

[Griffeth]

BTW, should someone start a new thread for Machinists so that the Original Post can be edited with the latest and greatest info?

Since it seems like the OP in this thread has stopped updating it. (BLM and DRG Threads all ended up being restarted with new threads in 3.0)

We have actually switched over to a google doc that I try to keep updated as new info comes in and gets tested. If we want to switch over to a new thread with the doc on the first page I am fine with starting it up, as long as people help keep it bumped and move people from this thread to that one.

The Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

[Emptymind]

Hey, been skimming through this for a while now, but are you supposed to use Ricochet on cd, or save it?

[VitalSuit]

Hey, been skimming through this for a while now, but are you supposed to use Ricochet on cd, or save it?

You pretty much use all of your skills on CD except for B4B which you hold for 10 seconds so it lines up with Hawk's Eye and you also hold Hypercharge so it lines up with your 1st and 3rd wildfires.