Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[girlsimulation]

Ah okay. Also the reason I do not use gauss round in the pre opener is because rapid fire speeds up the GCD to the point where gauss round won't be back up until after wildfire exploded. So I would have to test both of those openers as well. I already spent a good 6 hours doing openers this morning, then you bring that up. orz

What about popping rapid fire right after lead shot? It speeds up your split shot so you'll only have about 1 second of wildfire without all your buffs, but that 1 second is also enough time for gauss round to come off cd and for you to use it.
e: no, this doesn't quite work. b4b and he definitely still drop off before your last gcd in wildfire.

[Ephier]

What about popping rapid fire right after lead shot? It speeds up your split shot so you'll only have about 1 second of wildfire without all your buffs, but that 1 second is also enough time for gauss round to come off cd and for you to use it.
e: no, this doesn't quite work. b4b and he definitely still drop off before your last gcd in wildfire.

Also note, using RF first allows for you to pot without clipping after hot shot, as you will have the full 1.5s of GCD compared to casting and have 1s or less.

[Phyllo]

I've gotten into a similar habit lately as well. I'm pretty much AFK beside the target dummy outside my FC house while I do stuff outside the game, and I'll come back every 3 minutes to practice an opener and get a feel for it.

I'm assuming those three minutes of wait are for raging strikes? Run away from the dummy, change class, go back in machinist, it resets all cross class CD.

[Lavieh]

Also note, using RF first allows for you to pot without clipping after hot shot, as you will have the full 1.5s of GCD compared to casting and have 1s or less.

You also lose a whole GCD within Wildfire.

[Ephier]

You also lose a whole GCD within Wildfire.

Moving rapid fire to the prebuff instead of using it mid rotation means losing 1 skill off the wildfire, but in my testing has shown higher opening burst.

Already addressed this in a previous post, which met the response.

If you're just comparing Wildfire damage numbers you will certainly get larger numbers with an opener optimized to produce that, but that's not the whole picture.

Basically weakens wildfire by 1 gcd to improve overall dps.

[Griffeth]

The opener in this thread is rather outdated anyway. It's not like it's terrible (ok, maybe a little terrible), but things have been optimized a lot since then and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

It's just the nature of class forums like this unfortunately, if the OP never gets updated and there isn't a centralized information source it can be tricky for newcomers to find up to date information. I don't envy the guy having to search backward through 116 pages to piece together relevant bits.

If you ask me, it's more useful these days to compile these things in Google Docs or something. Easier to update, simple to share as links to people looking for information, and you can always read someone else's if you disagree with a particular author.

Do we have anyone putting this stuff in a doc and updating it? If not I can look at starting that as long as people are willing to work together to keep it updated.

[Haxetc]

Also note, using RF first allows for you to pot without clipping after hot shot, as you will have the full 1.5s of GCD compared to casting and have 1s or less.

There is no chance that you aren't clipping a GCD by using a pot after HS with RF up. The time you are unable to use a WS after using a pot is like 2 seconds or so. Maybe it's possible with JP latency but Medicine and Food make it take forever to cast a new GCD. Also, do you have any proof that opening with RF ends up as higher DPS? I find it hard to believe seeing as how I'm pretty sure I played with that a long time ago but I'm not 100% sure. Not saying you're wrong. Just saying that I would like something more concrete than just word of mouth.

[Myon88]

I'm assuming those three minutes of wait are for raging strikes? Run away from the dummy, change class, go back in machinist, it resets all cross class CD.

You got it, Raging Strikes. I actually didn't know about the cross class thing, I guess I've learned something new today!

Do we have anyone putting this stuff in a doc and updating it? If not I can look at starting that as long as people are willing to work together to keep it updated.

I seem to recall seeing one floating around before, but the names are escaping me right now. These kinds of things are intrinsically democratic in nature anyway, anyone's more than free to make one, and it will get bookmarked if people like what they're reading.

[Ephier]

Snip.

But you get the point latency aside. You have more time to use your pot when you have used rapid Fire first effectively clipping less GCD. As for proof, no I do not as this is very simple for one to test themselves. I never laid it down as concrete evidence just something for the community to look at. Put rapid fire in the beginning as the first skill used in prebuff and put gauss round in its place in the rotation so Rico/GR will be used at the same time.

[Empty-handed]

I tried the gauss round startup opener, indeed it came up again before wildfire exploded. However, I'm getting lower numbers in comparison to Aiurily opener .

I will try the rf prebuff opener. Hmmm. Rf will come up early for the second wildfire in this case.