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    ZDamned's Avatar
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    wow.. Tanking is no different now, than it was before. The only thing different now is that you are not over geared for the encounters this time around...

    Did you clear T5 in greater than ilvl 80? Then you were over geared.
    Did you clear T9 in greater than ilvl 100? Then you were over geared.
    Did you clear T13 in greater than ilvl 120? Then you were over geared.
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZDamned View Post
    wow.. Tanking is no different now, than it was before. The only thing different now is that you are not over geared for the encounters this time around...

    Did you clear T5 in greater than ilvl 80? Then you were over geared.
    Did you clear T9 in greater than ilvl 100? Then you were over geared.
    Did you clear T13 in greater than ilvl 120? Then you were over geared.
    Your numbers for t9 and t13 are wrong and lower than the min. Ilvl to get in. Even if the progression based groups did it at lower, you cannot get in now at such ilvls, so its hardly overgearing.

    Anyway, i remember bringing this concern up before. Dps classes either need their own branching out or their damage abilities brought out. Df restrictions shouldn't be the only reason to invite your local blm.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 08-18-2015 at 02:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Your numbers for t9 and t13 are wrong and lower than the min. Ilvl to get in. Even if the progression based groups did it at lower, you cannot get in now at such ilvls, so its hardly oveegearing.
    Except your talking about when they added echo as well. You are in the wrong 100% here, so stop trying to deny it. I beat T8 at ilvl 93, and no. it was not hard when my entire group was also ilvl 91-93.

    The only reason those ilvl enforcements exist is because it expects you to no longer need communication because of how damn easy the fight is when your that over powered.
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    The fights are tuned to be taken on with the gear that they are dropping with in about a ten level range (i70 - 90, i90 - 110, i110 - 130 for coils respectfully). They are ranges the begining turns are tuned for the lower end of the range while the later turns are tuned for the top end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Your numbers for t9 and t13 are wrong and lower than the min. Ilvl to get in. Even if the progression based groups did it at lower, you cannot get in now at such ilvls, so its hardly oveegearing.
    The ilvl req to get in is intentionally higher than what is required to actually clear the fight. You are, technically, overgearing it by wearing the required ilvl to go in. Which is weird, but it's still a true thing, and ZDamned's example was more to showcase that fights are easier with more gear and working with less requires more out of the individual players.
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