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  1. #101
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    Eudyptes's Avatar
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    Summer Lebeau
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 100
    I had a long drawn out post I was halfway through, but honestly I'm tired of arguing this. The math on how all these buffs compare and the effect they have on dps and been done, and the verdict is that a 30 second +3% attack speed buff that can be cast every 1 min consistently beats out balance and arrow in real situations. This is not including the fact SCH can simultaneously cast a 10% dmg reduction field every 30 sec that lasts 15 sec.

    I want to like AST too, so I get why people try so hard to defend it. But fact is it's just not that good atm.
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  2. #102
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    Zaresin's Avatar
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    Kyle Drew
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    I had a long drawn out post I was halfway through, but honestly I'm tired of arguing this. The math on how all these buffs compare and the effect they have on dps and been done, and the verdict is that a 30 second +3% attack speed buff that can be cast every 1 min consistently beats out balance and arrow in real situations. This is not including the fact SCH can simultaneously cast a 10% dmg reduction field every 30 sec that lasts 15 sec.

    I want to like AST too, so I get why people try so hard to defend it. But fact is it's just not that good atm.

    You can talk till you are blue in the face or your fingers fall off. If someone didn't come up with the math themselves, they won't believe it even when they know it was done correctly. You tell someone theres a magic fairy in the sky creating worlds and they'll believe it. Tell them the paint is wet and they have to touch it. Same concept.
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  3. #103
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    Ysera Dei-ijla
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    Goblin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    I want to like AST, but I can't get over not having a reliable way to fix group mistakes in time.
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  4. #104
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    Paito Maito
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    Adamantoise
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dalvy View Post
    I want to like AST, but I can't get over not having a reliable way to fix group mistakes in time.
    There is a way!
    First, predict when your group is going to make a mistake, and how many of your group will be affected. Armed with this 'information', keep drawing cards until you draw bole, but before that, keep drawing cards until you can either get expanded or enhanced royal road. Now that you have your appropriate royal road, either cast the enhanced version on the person about to make a mistake, or tell everyone to gather so you can hit everyone with an almost useless damage decrease buff. Then, after the mistake is made, use aspected helios on the group or benefic 2 on the individual. This could take anywhere from 3 minutes to 3 years to set up properly, but at any rate, problem solved!

    Or you could level whm instead and use divine seal on medica 2 in like 3 seconds, or just use an instant cast benediction, or use presence of mind.
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    Last edited by Geardagas; 08-14-2015 at 11:11 PM.

  5. #105
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    Vlady's Avatar
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dalvy View Post
    I want to like AST, but I can't get over not having a reliable way to fix group mistakes in time.
    I wish astrologian's had a ability that let them have a considerably lower global cooldown then the other two healers. Being the busy healer having more casts but less potent casts seems like it would fit he job nicely. I hope they allow lightspeed to lower the global cooldown by a significant amount since its only useful for endurance with mana cost and movement right now.
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  6. #106
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    Azorius Prahv
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 60
    I want to like AST, it was my first 60 but it's just so ...meh. SE, if you don't want to fix AST for AST, do it for WHM and SCH. Every time I get paired with an AST, I'm like, "Ah, crap... Well, better put on my big girl panties, it's time to carry".
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  7. #107
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    Enchanted Dreamz
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    AST has almost the exact same tools as WHM at level 30 except with the addition of Draw.
    Draw reminds me of Corsair lol. I will find out soon, it looks cool.
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  8. #108
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    Muahbec's Avatar
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    Veigas Shiffer
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    Omega
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Geardagas View Post
    Or you could level whm instead and use divine seal on medica 2 in like 3 seconds, or just use an instant cast benediction, or use presence of mind.
    (continuing your post)
    Or you can level sch instead and use fey illumination+indomitability, or rouse+whispering dawn or Lustrate or Emergency tactics+Adloquium(it tastes like the kiss of a flying rainbow unicorn when it crits <3 ) -and the list goes-
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  9. #109
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    Paito Maito
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    (continuing your post)
    Or you can level sch instead and use fey illumination+indomitability, or rouse+whispering dawn or Lustrate or Emergency tactics+Adloquium(it tastes like the kiss of a flying rainbow unicorn when it crits <3 ) -and the list goes-
    I don't have scholar leveled past E4E so I couldn't comment on that lol. But I did forget about eglasticamation or whatever the new mini-benediction for whms is called.

    edit: Tetragrammaton, seriously who comes up with these names
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  10. #110
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    Muahbec's Avatar
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    Veigas Shiffer
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    Omega
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Geardagas View Post
    I don't have scholar leveled past E4E so I couldn't comment on that lol. But I did forget about eglasticamation or whatever the new mini-benediction for whms is called.

    edit: Tetragrammaton, seriously who comes up with these names
    Yeah i imagined XD that's why i wanted to reinforce your comment
    Also, Ikr?
    "Tetragrammaton", "apocatastasis (what the hell? )".
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