This is the end.

[Kosmos992k]

If a person is under performing for that content they should be told they're doing so. It's up to them whether they correct this or not and it's up to the 3 others to decide if they're willing to put up with this or not afterwards. If they're not willing to accept accountability for their own performance they should be ready to deal with getting booted. I do feel some forms of insults do go too far but it varies.
**snp** I don't expect Olympic Gold performance but I also don't expect a simple dungeon run to take 10+ minutes longer than normal if there's no wipes.

You do not get to decide if someone is underperforming, nor do you get to define underperforming. Putting your self importance aside, everyone pays the same sub, everyone deserves respect. I am so tired of self appointed judges of how long a run should take, how much dps should be done, how others should play their role, etc. you can't see it, but that attitude is a huge driver behind the toxicity being discussed.

[Amiantos]

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Can call me toxic all you wish and I'll just laugh. There's a base line that I've seen that can constitute saying some one is under performing. I've leveled my dark knight, nin and working on whm solely off roulette's, dungeons and daily hunt list so I've seen good, bad and average players. I've seen nins who don't put up either Kiss of the Viper or Kiss of the Wasp despite pointing it out or using Huton then doing way less than what most others do as nin. They can play as they want but at the same time if myself and the others agree that Mr. Non Kiss of the Viper/Wasp or Mr. I'm not gonna use Huton is the cause of why everything is going so slow we have the same right to replace him. Especially if it comes to harder content too.

[Isala]

You do not get to decide if someone is underperforming, nor do you get to define underperforming. Putting your self importance aside, everyone pays the same sub, everyone deserves respect. I am so tired of self appointed judges of how long a run should take, how much dps should be done, how others should play their role, etc. you can't see it, but that attitude is a huge driver behind the toxicity being discussed.

I believe the old WoW adage still holds true to this day. Sure, it's your $15 a month. But it's our $45/$105/$345, and we don't want to deal with your inability to play right.

By all means. Fail completely at your job in solo play. But if you go into a group, don't expect people to put up with it. We pay just as much as you do, and you're wasting OUR time and money.