This is the end.

[Eul]

Bard's Song = only a myth.

[Kosmos992k]

The absolute irony in this topic is that the very toxicity the OP pointedoutis on display in many of the replies that border on hostile. There is no excuse for bullying, it should never be tolerated, nor should it be expected. Bullying and similar abuse in not a natural part of the Internet, it is a consequence of too many people believing that they are untouchable and free of consequence for their words or actions. It's not a natural aspect of the Internet, its an unfortunate aspect of human nature free of restraint.

Each of us control only how we act and react, we do not control others words or actions.

[Destomius]

Quitting because of one run with unpleasant people? Yeah, best you stick to single-player games. You won't ever find an online game without unpleasant people unless they severely restrict how players can communicate with each other. (like smash bros online or hearthstone)

[AsahinaMyLove]

Hey, I sometimes get kicked because I really dislike and dont support those so called "speed(...?)" runs! o_o
(No support means: I heal slow, no AoE/buffs as dps, I dont pay attention to additional mobs some idiot pulled as tank!)

They are worthless, annoying and shows only NO respect to the devs who maded these dungeons!
Also: "Speed" runs are NOT faster!

I join per Duty Finder! You meet -->random<-- people!
They cant expect every1 like the same thing! <.<

[RickXRolled]

Hey, I sometimes get kicked because I really dislike and dont support those so called "speed(...?)" runs! o_o
(No support means: I heal slow, no AoE/buffs as dps, I dont pay attention to additional mobs some idiot pulled as tank!)

They are worthless, annoying and shows only NO respect to the devs who maded these dungeons!
Also: "Speed" runs are NOT faster!

I join per Duty Finder! You meet -->random<-- people!
They cant expect every1 like the same thing! <.<

We call that being selfish.

[Kosmos992k]

We call that being selfish.

No "we" don't. Playing as intended does not equate to speed runs. Speed runs are something that some players do, and it would be courteous to request a speed run in DR/DF, but is others don't want to, then it's not a speed run, and not wantingto speed run is not selfish, pushing or bullying others to do it IS.

[loreleidiangelo]

No "we" don't. Playing as intended does not equate to speed runs. Speed runs are something that some players do, and it would be courteous to request a speed run in DR/DF, but is others don't want to, then it's not a speed run, and not wantingto speed run is not selfish, pushing or bullying others to do it IS.

Getting vote-kicked for not contributing to one is a "difference in play styles", though, so be prepared for that black loading screen.

[Adire]

No "we" don't. Playing as intended does not equate to speed runs. Speed runs are something that some players do, and it would be courteous to request a speed run in DR/DF, but is others don't want to, then it's not a speed run, and not wantingto speed run is not selfish, pushing or bullying others to do it IS.

Hey, I sometimes get kicked because I really dislike and dont support those so called "speed(...?)" runs! o_o
(No support means: I heal slow, no AoE/buffs as dps, I dont pay attention to additional mobs some idiot pulled as tank!)

Intentionally and uncompromisingly crippling your play and hurting the group in an attempt to prove some point when the others don't want to do what you want them to do is pretty selfish...

If there are 3 people in the group wanting to do a quick run, and one person wanting a slow run, and that one person intentionally slows the run down, that person is being very selfish. And that's what AsahinaMyLove just admitted to doing.

[Amiantos]

Sorry OP and others who are in the everything needs to be sunshine and rainbows hugbox camp but some times you have to call the baby ugly. If a person is under performing for that content they should be told they're doing so. It's up to them whether they correct this or not and it's up to the 3 others to decide if they're willing to put up with this or not afterwards. If they're not willing to accept accountability for their own performance they should be ready to deal with getting booted. I do feel some forms of insults do go too far but it varies. Through my time lvling drk, nin and now whm I've seen DPS under perform even what I was doing as brd back in the 2.x series, which is pretty bad to the point I looked at my performance and decided brd was not my thing. I don't expect Olympic Gold performance but I also don't expect a simple dungeon run to take 10+ minutes longer than normal if there's no wipes.

[Kosmos992k]

If a person is under performing for that content they should be told they're doing so. It's up to them whether they correct this or not and it's up to the 3 others to decide if they're willing to put up with this or not afterwards. If they're not willing to accept accountability for their own performance they should be ready to deal with getting booted. I do feel some forms of insults do go too far but it varies.
**snp** I don't expect Olympic Gold performance but I also don't expect a simple dungeon run to take 10+ minutes longer than normal if there's no wipes.

You do not get to decide if someone is underperforming, nor do you get to define underperforming. Putting your self importance aside, everyone pays the same sub, everyone deserves respect. I am so tired of self appointed judges of how long a run should take, how much dps should be done, how others should play their role, etc. you can't see it, but that attitude is a huge driver behind the toxicity being discussed.