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    Next time argue like that in private. These forums are for discussing the topic at hand and the healer jobs, not for senseless arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xalvador View Post
    Next time argue like that in private. These forums are for discussing the topic at hand and the healer jobs, not for senseless arguments.
    LOL, I love how people here think they are moderators. It's also quite amusing how people who want the "argument" (which was actually about a component of "the healer job") to be done feel the need to bring it up again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xalvador View Post
    Next time argue like that in private. These forums are for discussing the topic at hand and the healer jobs, not for senseless arguments.
    If that kind of discussion bothers you so, refrain from butting in and allow it to die a natural death.

    Attempting to moderate your fellow posters almost invariably leaves you coming off as more out-of-line than anyone you are criticizing.
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    I'll do so next time, thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    GUYS! Who cares anyways? Can you both please end this useless argument?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xalvador View Post
    Next time argue like that in private. These forums are for discussing the topic at hand and the healer jobs, not for senseless arguments.
    I don't understand these posts.

    First, the argument was done long before anyone came in. In fact NorthernLadMSP said they were done and I purposefully made my last post was literal as to not bait a response.

    Second, most of the argument was on topic. There were a couple posts that were unnecessary, but the bulk of them I was trying to explain how fey wind, arrow, and balance have the same effect on a group. My large dps explanation was also serious, as at that point I thought that maybe they thought "dps" was interchangeable with how much damage a single action does, which is something I've seen before. And, believe it or not, this argument may have explained that latter point to people who were actually unaware of that.

    So yeah, I wont drag out this specific argument any longer than this post, but I think both of these posts ended up being more useless than about 80% of our argument...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    You didn't need to act clever , count the hours, and make me look stupid. I was quite aware of the time.
    *eye roll*
    My comment was just a direct response. It was not written with the intention of acting clever or making you look stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    So yeah, I wont drag out this specific argument any longer than this post, but I think both of these posts ended up being more useless than about 80% of our argument...
    Without rehashing any of our interaction, I apologize to you for misunderstanding you. When I read a few of your posts, I took them as condescending - as if you were talking down to me. I was wrong.

    And I do agree with you that our discussion was most certainly relevant to the thread at hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    My comment was just a direct response. It was not written with the intention of acting clever or making you look stupid.
    Then, i'm sorry, i misunderstood your coment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
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    As i said, most of the times people bring back the discussion after some hours/minutes, i was aware of the time.
    The discussion started to fall away from topic since it started to talk about "how DPS works" instead of "why people hate AST, how to prevent that from happening, why AST is weaker, how to fix that,etc...".
    We were only looking for an end to your almost endless discussion that was starting to get agressive, how's that useless?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    As i said, most of the times people bring back the discussion after some hours/minutes, i was aware of the time.
    The discussion started to fall away from topic since it started to talk about "how DPS works" instead of "why people hate AST, how to prevent that from happening, why AST is weaker, how to fix that,etc...".
    We were only looking for an end to your almost endless discussion that was starting to get agressive, how's that useless?
    Understanding how dps works is how you understand how buffs like fey wind, arrow, and balance work in the grand scheme of things. As well as help you understand how/why fey wind outclasses both cards. Which I'd say is actually pretty on topic since it is a massive portion of the topic at hand.

    It might be a "basic lesson" in an "advanced discussion", but it's entirely relevant. If someone doesn't understand said basics they can't participate in the discussion in a meaningful way. The whole argument was me trying to clear up a misunderstanding, then me thinking that maybe they thought "dps" meant dmg done on a hit by hit basis. So believe it or not but I was trying to be helpful once I thought maybe they were thinking of something else.

    And it was "useless" because the argument was over. They even said as much. Plus it wasn't "almost endless", it was like 1 page. Stop being so overdramatic.
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    Last edited by Eudyptes; 08-14-2015 at 12:08 PM.