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  1. #71
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    Parawill's Avatar
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    Spark Joy
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Are you? You posted something that is flat out incorrect (at least a portion of your statement), I called you out on it, you refuse to admit you made an error, and then you resort to telling me I lack an understanding of how damage works. LMAO wow.
    Eudyptes is speaking of numerical values of DPS gained through the buff. Not how attack speed is equivalent to 5% bonus damage on all attacks.
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  2. #72
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    Summer Lebeau
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    Monk Lv 100
    It wasn't incorrect, you just misunderstood what I was saying. I never claimed arrow/fey boosted damage numbers, I said they increase dps. There is actually a difference.
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  3. #73
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    It wasn't incorrect, you just misunderstood what I was saying. I never claimed arrow/fey boosted damage numbers, I said they increase dps. There is actually a difference.
    You stated it was the equivalent of Balance/Arrow. I stated you were correct in stating Arrow but that it was not actually the same as Balance. I took your post as literal, but I guess you were not being literal.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    You stated it was the equivalent of Balance/Arrow. I stated you were correct in stating Arrow but that it was not actually the same as Balance. I took your post as literal, but I guess you were not being literal.
    Let me explain then. "Dps" means "damage per second". It doesn't mean how much damage you do per attack, but how much damage is done over a period of time, and then averaged out to how much damage output is going out per second. This is the universal measurement of damage due to the fact that many classes do damage differently. MNKs and NINs attack quickly, BLMs and DRGs do big hits, SMNs add on a bunch of DoTs that do a little dmg but all add up, etc. So we use "dps" to compare them and figure out who stands where.

    So for example, you have two dps classes. One does 100 damage every 5 seconds, while the other does 20 damage every one second. They both are doing 100 dps, because by the 5 second mark the second dps will have done 5 hits, equalling 100 damage.

    Balance, arrow, and fey wind all contribute to the groups (or a single persons) dps. It happens in different ways, but to the same end. Which was what my original point was way back in the beginning.
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  5. #75
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    Oh, thank you so much for explaining what DPS means. What would I have ever done without you to guide me?

    I'm going to keep my word this time and walk away from conversing with you, before I say something that will get me banned.
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    Last edited by NorthernLadMSP; 08-14-2015 at 12:17 AM.

  6. #76
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    I was trying to be helpful. Sorry.
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  7. #77
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    lol all this hate i never had any problem with the astro

    but all this hate makes me think i'll stick with my sch rather then changing job
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  8. #78
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    Veigas Shiffer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    I was trying to be helpful. Sorry.
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Oh, thank you so much for explaining what DPS means. What would I have ever done without you to guide me?

    I'm going to keep my word this time and walk away from conversing with you, before I say something that will get me banned.
    GUYS! Who cares anyways? Can you both please end this useless argument?
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    GUYS! Who cares anyways? Can you both please end this useless argument?
    It's been done for 2.5 hours.
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  10. #80
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    Xalvador Ysellian
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    Next time argue like that in private. These forums are for discussing the topic at hand and the healer jobs, not for senseless arguments.
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