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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Art styles normally evolve because artists normally get better at drawing with time. Of course that's not the case with Toriyama, considering he's never been good to begin with, and he's so fossilized on his extremely simplified designs that there's no room for improvement.
    There's nothing wrong with his work. And to claim his style hasn't improved at all is a bit ignorant. His drawings are more dynamic (especially in character poses, it used to be they would often stand stiff and when not taking action, and his smaller characters where unusually potato like), he has a much stronger sense of staging and his characters emote much more clearly.
    http://www.mangareader.net/105-2100-...chapter-1.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    There's nothing wrong with his work. And to claim his style hasn't improved at all is a bit ignorant. His drawings are more dynamic, he has a much stronger sense of staging and his characters emote much more clearly.
    http://www.mangareader.net/105-2100-...chapter-1.html
    http://www.the-nextlevel.com/media_p...uest8__art.jpg
    What's ignorant is comparing a manga page with an illustration. His illustrations from dragonball show no real visible difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    What's ignorant is comparing a manga page with an illustration. His illustrations from dragonball show no real visible difference.
    Okay. Here's the same thing but with reversed temporal roles:
    http://www.mangareader.net/105-3167-...apter-518.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Good job still comparing a manga table with an illustration. No, there's no sizable improvement (besides the extremely poor quality of the scan). Toriyama is toriyama, and is crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Good job still comparing a manga table with an illustration. No, there's no sizable improvement. Toriyama is toriyama, and is crap.
    Here's an idea.
    Compare:
    http://www.iheartdragonquest.com/ima...st-box-art.jpg
    with
    http://www.the-nextlevel.com/media_p...uest8__art.jpg

    and
    http://www.mangareader.net/105-2100-...chapter-1.html
    with
    http://www.mangareader.net/105-3167-...apter-518.html

    Like I said, more dynamic, more emoting, better staging, less potato.
    Now we should agree to disagree before we completely drown the thread in our petty argument.
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    Last edited by Gramul; 09-06-2011 at 01:49 AM. Reason: messed up links

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Like I said, more dynamic, more emoting, better staging, less potato.
    And a lot of completely meaningless catchwords.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    And a lot of completely meaningless catchwords.
    dy·nam·ic /dīˈnamik/
    Adjective: (of a process or system) Characterized by constant change, activity, or progress.
    -Toriama's characters in their early days often stood stiff. Straight lines of action where prominent in his works but as he continued to grow as an artist, his characters loosened up and his characters took on more realistic and stronger poses with more curved lines of action. Things like hair and clothing have also become more loose and susceptible to movement in the wind or effected by gravity.

    emoting present participle of e·mote
    Verb: (esp. of an actor) Portray emotion in a theatrical manner.
    -In the early days of Dragonball and Dr. Slump, characters used emotions that were more iconic of base feelings, rather than a clear expression of how they felt. His current art shows his characters are capable of portraying more complex emotions appropriately by subtle line work around the face where wrinkles should appear and stronger proportions in how the eyes and mouth relate.

    stag·ing Noun/ˈstājiNG/
    An instance or method of presenting a play or other dramatic performance. (in this case, his illustrations and artwork)
    -He does a better job of conveying action, setting up scenes, and showing the importance of a character or item then he did in the past.

    Potato, is just referring to the fact that he used to draw smaller characters like lumpy potato toddlers.

    Now I'm done talking about this so feel free to make any closing point you want to.
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