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    Galactimus's Avatar
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    Clive Hawkins
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pr0c3ss0r View Post
    Well it look like PLD win right? But that is just true on single target, on MULTI-Target with Bloodbath, OverPower, Berserk they get 140 HP per monster and per OverPower.

    Whoa there. So let me get this straight...

    In order to have more damage mitigation than a Paladins natural Block and Parry you're telling me you're going to pop Raw Intuition, Awareness, Bloodbath, Berserk, and Overpower spam at 130 TP? I think you're cheating now sir. That's like me saying "Hey, I'll just go ahead and cast a Clemency while you're doing all that. Bam, 6,000 damage mitigated. Four times more damage mitigated than all those abilities you just used on Warrior, no cool downs used!!!"
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    Last edited by Galactimus; 08-13-2015 at 01:35 PM.

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    Pr0c3ss0r's Avatar
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    Fenrir Ilax
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Galactimus View Post
    Whoa there. So let me get this straight...

    In order to have more damage mitigation than a Paladins natural Block and Parry you're telling me you're going to pop Raw Intuition, Awareness, Bloodbath, Berserk, and Overpower spam at 130 TP? I think you're cheating now sir. That's like me saying "Hey, I'll just go ahead and cast a Clemency while you're doing all that. Bam, 6,000 damage mitigated. Four times more damage mitigated than all those abilities you just used on Warrior, no cool downs used!!!"
    Error, using Awareness + Berserk + Bloodbath + Overpower in Multi-Target is pretty a standard. So is for PLD to use Flash + FF+BB+CoS.

    I never said Berserk + Equilibrium, so please do not mix up Clemency in this, At best, you can say PLD can use Bloodbath + Fight or Flight + Circle of Scorn + 2 Flash (you can only do 1x Circle of Scorn per Bloodbath. CoS = 100HP return per mob.

    **I also never said spam overpower nor flash, i said 2x only, is 2 flash or 2 OverPower an overkill to hold multi-monster?

    I210 shield PLD: 15,000 DMG * 22% = 3300 DMG block but it have 30.723%% chance to block: 3300 * 30.723% = 1013.859 + 0 HP return from Flash + 400 HP Return from CoS+BB =1413.859 reduction.

    I190 weapon WAR: 15,000 DMG * 20% = 3000 DMG parry but it have 22.22% chance to block: 3000 * 22.22% = 666.6 + 1120 HP Return = 1786.6 reduction.

    Even adding Fight or Flight + BB + CoS, WAR still doing better than PLD, and i am not even going to talk about Decimate and Steel Cyclone that cost 0 TP, the base idea was to compare WAR AoE enmity tool VS PLD Enmity tool.

    For Raw Intuition, well hell yes they will use it on multi-target, same as PLD will use Bulwark and Awareness, there is no logic of not using them for both tank in multi-target scenario.

    Previous post is updated for FF+BB+CoS.

    Quote Originally Posted by niwaar View Post
    Stoneskin and Clemency need to not interrupt combos.
    Clemency needs to be cast without interruption when cast on self.
    Tempered Will needs to include "spells cast without interruption".
    Shield Swipe needs to be conal and needs a 30s cd.

    These changes do not fix the fundamental problem with Blind and other detrimental debuffs in XIV.
    100% agree with you on that. If those change was made, i could careless about blind resist, and also careless about Flash doing 0 dmg since we get a Conal attack with Shield swipe.
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    Last edited by Pr0c3ss0r; 08-13-2015 at 04:36 PM.