Will we EVER be able to glamour gear that we cannot wear???

[Nektulos-Tuor]

I hope not.
I think it's eally better to be able to know which job you are at looking at you instead of having to open the box to see your class.
I'm not doing RP at all, but i like the way it is now.

More general stuff, ok, but do not remove specific job gear.

Oh gosh I have to click a button! Don't let anyone look different!

This response for this issue has always astounded me.

If you cant wear it, you cannot glamour it.
Its agains(*against) logic and common sense to do it otherwise.

In real life I could wear every outfit. In fact what you say goes against logic and common sense.

[SendohJin]

In real life I could wear every outfit. In fact what you say goes against logic and common sense.

show me a fireman wearing a police uniform driving a firetruck.

show me a US Marine wearing a Canadian Mountie outfit.

show me a Buckingham Palace Guard standing guard wearing nursing scrubs.

show me a Chicago Bulls player wearing a a Chicago Cubs jersey during an NBA game.

[Naunet]

show me a fireman wearing a police uniform driving a firetruck.

show me a US Marine wearing a Canadian Mountie outfit.

show me a Buckingham Palace Guard standing guard wearing nursing scrubs.

show me a Chicago Bulls player wearing a a Chicago Cubs jersey during an NBA game.

None of these are things our characters are doing in game, and it's a horrible analogy to boot. Our character doesn't suddenly stop knowing how to WHM when they switch to BRD, and they certainly don't forget how to wear clothing.

[Blood-Aki]

None of these are things our characters are doing in game, and it's a horrible analogy to boot. Our character doesn't suddenly stop knowing how to WHM when they switch to BRD, and they certainly don't forget how to wear clothing.

You missed the point of the post, if you can't logicaly wear it, then you can't glamour it, it's not hard to understand, Would look pretty dumb for a whm to be walking around in full heavy armor glamoured, this may be a game and "realism" does not always apply but you kind of have to draw the line SOMEWHERE.

[Naunet]

You missed the point of the post, if you can't logicaly wear it, then you can't glamour it, it's not hard to understand, Would look pretty dumb for a whm to be walking around in full heavy armor glamoured, this may be a game and "realism" does not always apply but you kind of have to draw the line SOMEWHERE.

It would not look "dumb" for a WHM to walk around in armor. Why is the line there for you when currently we can all play in swimsuits or as creepy snowmen or naked? There is no logic in your post. Logically, my character can equip everything she receives, as it's just clothing and it doesn't take rocket science to put on clothing. This is especially true when you already have a class leveled on the same character that "can" wear it.

I'd be happy just to be able to dye dungeon gear.

Well yes. This is also desperately needed to bring FFXIV's wardrobe system to something even remotely close to on par with other MMOs.

[Voltyblast]

if you can't logicaly wear it, then you can't glamour it, it's not hard to understand, Would look pretty dumb for a whm to be walking around in full heavy armor glamoured

And...so? It would look dumb, ok, and so why not let us look dumb? That's more choice to have and isn't that a good thing? Or would you like to see everyone wearing the same, exact glamoured outfits?
Plus, I'd love to use more dumb stuff on me if I had the chance. I would LOVE to use the 50 weaver set on another class/job or the reindeer but I can't due to this pretty weird restriction - and yes I call weird, because it only applies on very speficic pieces of armor.

PS: about the FFXI glamour being free, I think the glamour in FFXIV could've been better if we paid gil instead: would've been a great gil sink instead of...you know...spending million on houses that barely anyone can afford.

[Ayanno]

You missed the point of the post, if you can't logicaly wear it, then you can't glamour it, it's not hard to understand, Would look pretty dumb for a whm to be walking around in full heavy armor glamoured, this may be a game and "realism" does not always apply but you kind of have to draw the line SOMEWHERE.

I can go as a PLD in my bra/panties. Yer realism is already out the window.

[Niwashi]

show me a fireman wearing a police uniform driving a firetruck.

show me a US Marine wearing a Canadian Mountie outfit.

show me a Buckingham Palace Guard standing guard wearing nursing scrubs.

show me a Chicago Bulls player wearing a a Chicago Cubs jersey during an NBA game.

None of these are things our characters are doing in game, and it's a horrible analogy to boot. Our character doesn't suddenly stop knowing how to WHM when they switch to BRD, and they certainly don't forget how to wear clothing.

In none of those examples does the person not know how to wear clothing. They're all examples of how people avoid wearing outfits that would proclaim them to be something they're not.

They seem like perfect analogies to the game, providing that we're discussing the restrictions on AF gear specifically. Where the analogies fall apart, though, is when extending it to all the other gear in the game, stuff that doesn't constitute a uniform of the job, yet is limited purely for stat reasons as to which jobs can wear it.

[LunaHoshino]

In none of those examples does the person not know how to wear clothing. They're all examples of how people avoid wearing outfits that would proclaim them to be something they're not.

They seem like perfect analogies to the game, providing that we're discussing the restrictions on AF gear specifically. Where the analogies fall apart, though, is when extending it to all the other gear in the game, stuff that doesn't constitute a uniform of the job, yet is limited purely for stat reasons as to which jobs can wear it.

It makes even less sense when you consider that a lot of gear sets are just palette-swapped versions of another set. For example, the Picaroon's sets of Maiming, Striking, and Scouting all look exactly the same save for their colors. Why should they not be able to be glamoured interchangably? Clearly all three classes can wear that particular type of gear.

[SendohJin]

None of these are things our characters are doing in game, and it's a horrible analogy to boot. Our character doesn't suddenly stop knowing how to WHM when they switch to BRD, and they certainly don't forget how to wear clothing.

so you're saying your BRD can use Medica II now? i want to play the game you're playing cause that's not the game i play.

the 3 restrictions i support are
AF gear
GC gear
M/F gear

i do not want an Immortal Flames player wearing Twin Adder gear. it's not about knowing how to wear clothes, it's about respecting your position, which is what some of the analogies were meant for. a fireman can be an auxiliary police officer and own a police uniform but when he goes to work to do his job as a fireman he's not going to be wearing his auxiliary police uniform.

all of the things our characters do in the game are called "Jobs", hence why Job specific gear should be Job specific.