[Idea] Race: Allagan

[Dree-Elle]

I'm getting to much of a PSO vibe from this.

I'm sure that I'm not the only one who'd be (forgive me) PSOkay with this.

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I'll show myself out, now.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

They aren't using Allagan Tech. The closest thing they ever used was Ultima Weapon and that was with the help of The Ascians just to even get the damn thing workig.



I thought it was general knowledge that shields typically block unwanted things; Like in any other media or even our own immune systems. The point was, if you weren't an Allagan possess a key, or have a means of generating large amount of aether into a spike(and dragons don't meet either of those crtieras), you aren't getting through. Whats the point of even nit picking something like air being allowed through when we're speaking dragons?

I'll say this again, you're literally grasping at straws just to make a point in your argument. You're coming up with a lot of "but what ifs" which end up retconning the lore that's already in place and trying to attack points that honestly don't make a whole lot of sense.



Dragons have a mistrust of people due to what Ishgardians have done. There ia specific dragon in a side quest that got shot down by an Ishgardian and does not fully trust the player character. Does not necessarily mean they will go out of their way to fight with them, they simply do not have a reason to interact with them anymore (see Hraesvelgr)

Nidhogg specifically has an extreme hatred of Ishgard. He doesn't even simply want to wipe them out, he wants them to suffer. That's why the Dragonsong War was gone on for so long when he could've simply wiped them out. This is the primary reason why the attacks on Ishgard are so prominent.

Bahamut (along with the rest of Meryicida) was enslaved, trapped, and tortured in Dalamud by the Allagans. In FCoB, the game had made it clear that Bahamut has been driven to insanity and blinded rage that by the time he did get out, he's indiscriminately attacking everything. It also does not help that this incarnation of Bahamut isn't even the true bahamut, but just a manifestation of him int the form of an Elder Primal, so it's not even clear if The Allagans needed to be involved to make him the way he is (since Tiamet, his sister, had commented that the Primal they had summoned was nothing but a "crude imitation" of the original)

Very good points. I wonder what that alien ship circling the regions are, gives me a Majora's Mask vibe...

I'm sure that I'm not the only one who'd be (forgive me) PSOkay with this.

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I'll show myself out, now.

That was pretty good. =]

[Jetstream_Fox]

Yeah.. you must have been a Cutscene skipper. It's Ishgardians that SOME dragons hate.. Not Elezens as an entire race. And only ONE dragon had a seething hatred for them, and that was Nidhogg. And we put an end to him. If you had bothered to watch any of the cutscenes you'd find out that the war against Ishgard and Dragons died when we killed Nidhogg. Now it's an internal war within Ishgards hierarchy and Ascians that we have to worry about.

You can't really call someone a cutscene skipper since you seemed to forget or skipped the cutscene in which Nidhogg took over Estinten, regaining his physical form, thus meaning the war between Nidhogg and Ishgard isn't over in the slightest.

[Frederick22]

RiceisNice

Your point doesnt tell why the dragons would not trust a living allagan.

Again for dragons, there is no difference between an allagan and dragons. Also since those 2 are "men", the events implied that dragons have reasons to not trust all man, no matter if its even a miqote or a lalafell.

[RiceisNice]

RiceisNice

Your point doesnt tell why the dragons would not trust a living allagan.

Again for dragons, there is no difference between an allagan and dragons. Also since those 2 are "men", the events implied that dragons have reasons to not trust all man, no matter if its even a miqote or a lalafell.

Dragons are eternal; they do not forget. The only dragons that we'd know of who have true interacitons with The Allagans are the ones of Meriycida, which are unfortunately either wiped out or are already driven insane from their thousands of years of containment. With the exception of Tiamat which is so overcome with grief for what she had done with Bahamut that vengeance is far off her radar.

Dragons in general are not any less trusting of man due to the events of the Dragonsong war, but that's far far from being the only reason why allagans (or their creations) can't realistically be a player character without making MSQ events exclusive to them.

[myahele]

With the exception of "baby" dragons, I get the impression that most dragons are at the very least indifferent towards the Spoken races in general. That doesn't mean that they hate them, just that they don't like them. Best example I can think of is those loyal to Hraesvalgr. You need to atleast prove yourself to those dragons to get them to like you.


Then you have those dragons that ABSOLUTELY hates the spoken races, but they seem to be relegated to Nihoggs crew.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

With the exception of "baby" dragons, I get the impression that most dragons are at the very least indifferent towards the Spoken races in general. That doesn't mean that they hate them, just that they don't like them. Best example I can think of is those loyal to Hraesvalgr. You need to atleast prove yourself to those dragons to get them to like you.


Then you have those dragons that ABSOLUTELY hates the spoken races, but they seem to be relegated to Nihoggs crew.

Yep, I really do not think this would hurt the current story.

[Zeonx]

I was just saying this in the viera race thread.

Magitek robot female and male

Like a outcast robot who built a whole city of robots have a different cutscene when they are chosen of them being built and given a soul would be pretty cool.

[Nestama]

A new problem, but one that has been stated before: The Echo. When someone with the Echo is killed, they take over the closest living creatures body and are reborn anew. With a robotic race, does this mean they become human again? or do they go through the painful process of replacing flesh, bone and organs into what makes them robotic? If they can only take over what is the same as them, then... I'm sorry, but this race can NEVER work.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

A new problem, but one that has been stated before: The Echo. When someone with the Echo is killed, they take over the closest living creatures body and are reborn anew. With a robotic race, does this mean they become human again? or do they go through the painful process of replacing flesh, bone and organs into what makes them robotic? If they can only take over what is the same as them, then... I'm sorry, but this race can NEVER work.

I don't see how they can feel pain like we would. I imagine they could only when they have a complete body. If someone stabs you irl for example and it hits a nerve you actually don't feel much of anything. I imagine during that process of self-repair you would gather aether/metal/materials around you to remake your body.