Just buff Astrologians

[Muahbec]

...But again.. it is a FAR CRY from broken and not nearly as bad as these idiots are claiming. its a L2P issue as yes its healing is weaker.. they cant fix stupid dps standing in stupid stuff. THey cant fix stupid tanks who dont use Cooldowns. Thats not a fault of the job.. Astro brings out the faults in everyone else and people are screaming it is the AST fault.

OH Lord Arragomis please, bless us with your knowledge.
AST is weak, there is no secret, no "l2P", no "git gud", you are no Einstein so please, stop polluting these threads with these horrendous "l2p" coments, you're not better than anyone else.
It IS bad, face it.
Can't you see? as a SCH and WHM you can deal with most "stupid" players without much problems, and that's one of AST problems, you can't expect to enter perfect raids all the time, and if that's what you're expecting then i'm sorry, but it just shows off how unbalanced AST is.

[Alahra]

its a L2P issue as yes its healing is weaker.. they cant fix stupid dps standing in stupid stuff. THey cant fix stupid tanks who dont use Cooldowns. Thats not a fault of the job.. Astro brings out the faults in everyone else and people are screaming it is the AST fault.

The issue is that, in more cases than are the case for AST, WHM and SCH *can* fix those things because they have stronger healing cooldowns and healing output. This is of special importance during progression, when mistakes are a normal part of the learning experience. Thus, groups with WHM/SCH have more room for error, which allows for more actual progression and learning.

[DkDerek]

The issue is that, in more cases than are the case for AST, WHM and SCH *can* fix those things because they have stronger healing cooldowns and healing output. This is of special importance during progression, when mistakes are a normal part of the learning experience. Thus, groups with WHM/SCH have more room for error, which allows for more actual progression and learning.

This.

And when mistakes don't happen, and better gear is available, you bring one healer and add another DPS. You don't bring someone to play cards.

[DkDerek]

The only reason you bring an AST to any sort of progression raiding is because:

A. You are selfish.
B. Your raid group is terrible, and nobody cares. Might as well bring 6 black mages.

[Vlady]

The only reason you bring an AST to any sort of progression raiding is because:

A. You are selfish.
B. Your raid group is terrible, and nobody cares. Might as well bring 6 black mages.

Or you are the selfish one thinking you need x,y,z job or bust. Astro's have already cleared first two tiers of savage so requiring white/scholar only is as bad as accusing people of being selfish or bad.

[FoxyAreku]

Or you are the selfish one thinking you need x,y,z job or bust. Astro's have already cleared first two tiers of savage so requiring white/scholar only is as bad as accusing people of being selfish or bad.

They would have cleared easier with a white mage and scholar.

Prove that statement wrong.
(You can't.)

[Alahra]

Or you are the selfish one thinking you need x,y,z job or bust. Astro's have already cleared first two tiers of savage so requiring white/scholar only is as bad as accusing people of being selfish or bad.

Are there any AST groups past A3?

[Vlady]

They would have cleared easier with a white mage and scholar.

Prove that statement wrong.
(You can't.)

Can you prove that astrologians cannot clear the content? You cant.

[Muahbec]

Can you prove that astrologians cannot clear the content? You cant.

Here comes Vlady, the godly AST player, the one and only perfect AST player, the only one who knows AST's secrets.
*eye roll*

[Vlady]

Here comes Vlady, the godly AST player, the one and only perfect AST player, the only one who knows AST's secrets.
*eye roll*

I never claimed that. Enjoy putting words into my mouth like quite a few others? I only bite back if bitten ;/. Just absurd questions are asked when I do not know if any astrologians have cleared A3-A4. The top 5 progression groups only use white mage/scholar and not astrologian and I doubt most people even read the forums when its a very small minority that use these forums. i doubt many have no if any.