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  1. #411
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Well in the example I gave Fracture made up 2.59% of my damage total and was 32.73 DPS. In Zami's example Fracture made up 3.73% of his total damage and was 49.18 DPS.
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 08-09-2015 at 11:53 PM.

  2. #412
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    Well in the example I gave Fracture made up 2.59% of my damage total and was 32.73 DPS. In Zami's example Fracture made up 3.73% of his total damage and was 49.18 DPS.
    i should also point out, the crit rate on my fracture was EXTREMELY low, dps increase tho i would estimate at around 25-30 dps, because of the rotational changes that accompany it due to the demolish timer.
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  3. #413
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    I'll add that I'm fairly conservative in my Fracture usage as well.
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  4. #414
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    Mike Fisticuffison
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrustie View Post
    How much dps would you estimate you're going up you using fracture? My controller hotbars are so full and I'm worried trying to train myself to switch hotbars to use it and switch back is going to drag me down significantly.
    What are your hotbars looking like? Are you utilizing R2+L2 and L2+R2? With those extensions, you can fit pretty much all of its skills without the need of "manual" hotbar switching for Monk since it's (thankfully) not action bloated.
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  5. #415
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    Frederick Erhart
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    How much skill speed would you estimate you would need for Fracture to be used? For my skill speed (about 550), I never find Demolish above 2-3 seconds before getting to the point to apply it again, and then when I use Fracture, DK and TwS fall off when I'm hitting the button to reapply them.
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  6. #416
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    You don't need any skill speed at all to make use of Fracture.
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  7. #417
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayrr View Post
    How much skill speed would you estimate you would need for Fracture to be used? For my skill speed (about 550), I never find Demolish above 2-3 seconds before getting to the point to apply it again, and then when I use Fracture, DK and TwS fall off when I'm hitting the button to reapply them.
    monk skill rotation when you break it down consists of 2 combo chains followed by a filler, for a total of 7 skill.
    for this to work as smooth as possible, we would want 7 skills to take 15 seconds.
    for that to be the case, our gcd with GL3 active would need to be at least 2.14
    our gcd with absolutely no skillspeed with GL3 active is 2.125, less than the requirement already
    more skillspeed actually makes the rotation worse, because every bit of time saved via skillspeed is spent clipping dots

    tl;dr: you dont need any skillspeed
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  8. #418
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    And not only do you have issues with Clipping DoTs, TP consumption with Fracture is an issue.
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    Enma Hellbringer
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    I still see a lot of people asking when to apply fracture + timings etc. If you actually read the guide there is a section where and when you can apply fracture.
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    i try doing vthat and either DK or MD would fall off so im having issue applying it. im fallowing Zam idea to apply Frac when DK is 4-5 sec from falling off. but heres a question do u apply after SP like DK(4-5) Fracture Twin SP or DK(4-5) Twin SP farcture. cause right now the moment i hit 4-5 second on DK i apply it as soon as possible.
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