Thread: Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

Originally Posted by TheCurls

Am I the only one that thinks they're going to adjust Greased Lightning to last longer so it doesn't fall off in phase changes as much, and then lower the potency to compensate? All I'm seeing are posts going in the opposite direction.

That would be an awful change. MNK is already low on utility compared to DRG and NIN, and lowering their DPS would kill them.

Making GL last longer won't increase your DPS in most cases, and even if it did, MNK needs the increase in DPS anyways... not a nerf

It's possible that they're nerfing MNK, but why? Everyone knows that if anything, MNK needs a buff... It can be argued whether they need a buff or not, but I haven't heard anyone saying they should be nerfed.

The duration is probably only going to be extended enough to be able to keep GL up after using LB3... That duration might also make things a little more forgiving in some phase changes, but they still need a little buff in potency, which I'm sure is what we're getting.

Originally Posted by Craiger

It's possible that they're nerfing MNK, but why? Everyone knows that if anything, MNK needs a buff... It can be argued whether they need a buff or not, but I haven't heard anyone saying they should be nerfed.

The duration is probably only going to be extended enough to be able to keep GL up after using LB3... That duration might also make things a little more forgiving in some phase changes, but they still need a little buff in potency, which I'm sure is what we're getting.

We don't know exactly what changes will have for GL pot and duration. Knowing SE with there balance tactics to ward's the jobs you could be right. We might get increase duration but lower dmg % per GL. Our new GL 30seconds 5/10/15

Originally Posted by Butcherboy

We don't know exactly what changes will have for GL pot and duration. Knowing SE with there balance tactics to ward's the jobs you could be right. We might get increase duration but lower dmg % per GL. Our new GL 30seconds 5/10/15

That'd make no sense, though. GL upkeep isn't an issue in raids, as far as I can tell you lose it only if you messed up or in something extreme where multiple people will lose their stacks, like A1S jumps.

They're gonna buff MNK, not nerf it. I think the WAR DRK NIN DRG comps clearing A3S would be why.

Originally Posted by Sleigh

That'd make no sense, though. GL upkeep isn't an issue in raids, as far as I can tell you lose it only if you messed up or in something extreme where multiple people will lose their stacks, like A1S jumps.

They're gonna buff MNK, not nerf it. I think the WAR DRK NIN DRG comps clearing A3S would be why.

Ok I know, I'm just thinking of worse case scenario. I'm up for buff also. I just don't want my heart broken. Mnk 4 life.

At the moment we are not bringing much to a raid except for our DPS which is still slightly lower than Drg. If they nerf monk now, it's going to be a dead job. And seriously what is wrong with getting instant 5 stack of chakra out of combat, the reasoning they are giving doesn't makes sense. We already can get 5 stack between each pull, it's just annoying to spam the same button 5 times for it. It's only rarely where the pull are close enough to each other that we do not have time to spam it 5 times.

Originally Posted by valho

And seriously what is wrong with getting instant 5 stack of chakra out of combat, the reasoning they are giving doesn't makes sense. We already can get 5 stack between each pull

"2nd Anniversary 14-hour Live Broadcast" clip on their official Twitch, 2:13:15 onward:

"they say make it so that monks get 5 stacks when they haven't gotten enmity, but the way it is you can hit 1 mob at a time to be listed only for that mob, and we haven't found a workaround."

There are other omissions/simplifications from the official translation (very common). Emphasis on the quotation as those are the verbs YoshiP has used:

- 'shorten' the recast time for Meditation so that you can weave it in easier
- 'strengthen' the effect of GL to 'increase' DPS (no word on dmg% or speed%)
- 'increase' the GL timer
- 'altered' the recast time for Tornado Kick (not increased/decreased)
- overall 'buffed' the monk (a clear statement)

FYI

Originally Posted by Contradiction

"2nd Anniversary 14-hour Live Broadcast" clip on their official Twitch, 2:13:15 onward:

"they say make it so that monks get 5 stacks when they haven't gotten enmity, but the way it is you can hit 1 mob at a time to be listed only for that mob, and we haven't found a workaround."

FYI

In-order not to get enmity on all enemies you would need to skip Elixir Field and Howling Fist, so I think it will be a dps lost just to be able to constantly get instant 5 stacks. Could simply make it as long as you have 5 stacks and you are in agro range of enemies, all of them will instantly get listed in your enmity list.

As for Tornado Kick, simply changing the damage to apply on animation start will be good enough imo.

Originally Posted by Contradiction

"2nd Anniversary 14-hour Live Broadcast" clip on their official Twitch, 2:13:15 onward:

"they say make it so that monks get 5 stacks when they haven't gotten enmity, but the way it is you can hit 1 mob at a time to be listed only for that mob, and we haven't found a workaround."

There are other omissions/simplifications from the official translation (very common). Emphasis on the quotation as those are the verbs YoshiP has used:

- 'shorten' the recast time for Meditation so that you can weave it in easier
- 'strengthen' the effect of GL to 'increase' DPS (no word on dmg% or speed%)
- 'increase' the GL timer
- 'altered' the recast time for Tornado Kick (not increased/decreased)
- overall 'buffed' the monk (a clear statement)

FYI

Really :O That would be awesome, and if true, they really left out a lot in the translation

Originally Posted by Craiger

Really :O That would be awesome, and if true, they really left out a lot in the translation

That's always been pretty common looking back the last 2 years, something I'm sure other bilingual folks have noticed (those who actually watch the live letter broadcast in full). Anything spoken tends to get a 'broad' translation, seemingly done by somebody in a hurry at 3AM in the morning.

Not that it matters much as usually we only need to wait a few weeks before the changes go live anyhow.