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[Titor]

it sure as hell wouldn't be fair to players like you who have played through the event and got it fairly by paying less than 100 gil to get everything.

I am perfectly fine with you (and everyone else) easily and freely obtaining the items that I had gotten from events in previous years because I do not have special snowflake syndrome.

I would like event items for my alts without having to pay for EVERY SINGLE ALT that was not made during the time of the last festival. If it was bought for account wide that would be one thing (though I am still against the cash shop in general).

[Evergrey]

I am perfectly fine with you (and everyone else) easily and freely obtaining the items that I had gotten from events in previous years because I do not have special snowflake syndrome.

I would like event items for my alts without having to pay for EVERY SINGLE ALT that was not made during the time of the last festival. If it was bought for account wide that would be one thing (though I am still against the cash shop in general).

I hope that someday there will be an account wide access to obtained/unlocked stuff.

[Akselier]

I am perfectly fine with you (and everyone else) easily and freely obtaining the items that I had gotten from events in previous years because I do not have special snowflake syndrome.

You missed the point there. I'm saying the time and effort it took you to get those items wouldn't be comparable to the same items I got with that 100 gil I earned from selling that useless spear I picked up from the sastasha. Unless they bring back the old events that gives you the old items, then I won't complain.

[Naunet]

Yeah, cuz I'm not wasting my time complaining about a business decision that SE made. Also the old rewards were from 1.0. A game not many played upon it's release. Now that 2.0 was very accessible to many, there's no reason to keep giving out old items in the game.

No, I've already pointed out that the last summer event had not only 1.0 yukatas, but also the bikinis from the first event in ARR and the new yukatas. So it was not a "just 1.0" thing. It was a clear pattern that SE broke to milk more money from us.

I am perfectly fine with you (and everyone else) easily and freely obtaining the items that I had gotten from events in previous years because I do not have special snowflake syndrome.

I would like event items for my alts without having to pay for EVERY SINGLE ALT that was not made during the time of the last festival. If it was bought for account wide that would be one thing (though I am still against the cash shop in general).

Thank you. This person understands it. I wish I could like your post a dozen times.

[Adire]

Yeah, not having a particular shade of color to your armor or a minion following you around can really ruin your FFXIV gaming experience.

Your sarcasm and baseless hyperbole is noted. I'd rather not have FFXIV end up like those MMOs, where most of the new gear designs come to the cash shop and are noticeably higher quality than the ones that come from in game play, and things that were formerly developed as obtainable in game (such as dyes) have new variants that are just stuck on the cash shop for no reason other than "I want your money". Maybe that's just me. If allowed to do so, you can bet it will be done by SE.

Also, not sure why you think vanity isn't important to some people, because it is. Who are you to tell anyone what they should define as their gameplay experience or what they should enjoy? Achievements, collecting things, making things....those are part of the gameplay experience. And when minions (that could have been gotten from achievements in game) or dyes (that could have been made craftable, even with rare/expensive ingredients if need be) are added to the cash shop rather than to the game, gameplay and to a small but cumulative degree, subscription value, do start to suffer to make way for instant gratification. Think outside of the box.

About half of the stuff on the shop were obtainable ingame during the related events.
So the only things that was trule non-ingame are the Paints, Minions (some were event minions tho), Sleipnir mount, Fantasia Potions, the Moonlet earring (if I recall it's from 1.0) and the Wedding bands (basic one is free tho). The rest was free during events.

Yeah, that's why I mentioned exclusive items particularly bother me. The event items being on there don't bother me as much...but seeing as previous events offered old event items as rewards, it makes little sense to me why some have to be on the cash shop now. There are many ways they could have added old event items to the game without bringing in a cash shop (such as using special leves during seasonal event times, leves that offer old items or tokens for them), or they could have just left them seasonal event exclusive. Despite what some people say, and as unfortunate as it is that some people would be left out, maintaining promised, limited time in-game item exclusivity has its own perks for the community as a whole.

If they were going to throw exclusivity out the window (as in make event items everyone thought were obtainable for a limited time be obtainable afterwards), they could have done so without utilizing the cash shop. That was the easy, profitable option, not the fairest or most rewarding option for the player.

[Samcaesar]

They ARE obtainable by playing the game. It's called "when they're released during the event". It's not SE's fault that I missed the event when it's released and it sure as hell wouldn't be fair to players like you who have played through the event and got it fairly by paying less than 100 gil to get everything.

And somehow all the people going "2$ isn't that much just pay for it and shut up" is fair? If you're going to have the old items, don't put an actual price on them.

I literally didn't know the game existed prior during a lot of the previous events, it's not SE's fault for that, but it's sure as heck isn't my fault either.

[FallenArisen0990]

No, I've already pointed out that the last summer event had not only 1.0 yukatas, but also the bikinis from the first event in ARR and the new yukatas. So it was not a "just 1.0" thing.

All I got out of this is that the Bikinis should have been on the cash shop as well.

People just won't accept the fact limited time items are not mandatory to be re-issue or redistribute in a MMO.

Would it make people feel better if SE removed the untradeable on these items? So people could do /shout and sell them for millions of gils.

[Evergrey]

Yeah, that's why I mentioned exclusive items particularly bother me. The event items being on there don't bother me as much...but seeing as previous events offered old event items as rewards, it makes little sense to me why some have to be on the cash shop now. There are many ways they could have added old event items to the game without bringing in a cash shop (such as using special leves during seasonal event times, leves that offer old items or tokens for them), or they could have just left them exclusive. Despite what some people say, and as unfortunate as it is that some people would be left out, maintaining exclusivity has its own perks for the community as a whole.

Yeah, before they had a special vendor that sold old event items. I too used that vendor for the first years event items since I started playing close to when ARR was 1 year. If I recall the shop first came to life due to the huge demand on the option to buy Fantasia potions, and I guess that later they wanted something to fill the shop.

[Akselier]

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SE is not even close to that point. The only "armor" that they've ever released in the cash shop ARE obtainable in-game when they were released during the events. If you missed it, that's your problem. Sure, vanity is important to you, I get it. As for those dyes, the cash shop isn't the only way to obtain it. You can get those from retainer ventures. Go google it.(you don't mind hardship, yes?) The only thing left are the minions, which are NOT vanity, but if you still want them, go get it.

[Adire]

Yeah, before they had a special vendor that sold old event items. I too used that vendor for the first years event items since I started playing close to when ARR was 1 year. If I recall the shop first came to life due to the huge demand on the option to buy Fantasia potions, and I guess that later they wanted something to fill the shop.

The fantasia thing was a really disappointing read for me :/. I wish people had been more thoughtful about ways to get fantasia in game, if not exclusively, then as an option at least.

Especially since my last MMO, The Secret World, allowed you to use a nice big chunk of in game money to change anything you wanted about your character. About the equivalent of a million gil or so I'd say. They also had the option to pay real money (about 4 dollars or so IIRC) to buy a coupon to do it.

I really wish we had the option at least to spend gil to fantasia.

SE is not even close to that point. The only "armor" that they've ever released in the cash shop ARE obtainable in-game when they were released during the events. If you missed it, that's your problem. Sure, vanity is important to you, I get it. As for those dyes, the cash shop isn't the only way to obtain it. You can get those from retainer ventures. Go google it.(you don't mind hardship, yes?) The only thing left are the minions, which are NOT vanity, but if you still want them, go get it.

They aren't there, yet. Other MMOs didn't start at their points immediately either though, yet they got there. How? Because people turned a blind eye to the slow steps they took towards that point. The same thing will happen here if allowed. I'd prefer not waiting until it's too late to start voicing discontent, personally.

The dyes are actually cash shop exclusive, so I think you're misinformed. Metallic red, blue, etc are not from ventures.

The minions may not be quite vanity, but they are collectible, and instead of being associated with "I spent 2 dollars on this", could have been made to be associated with "I spent 500,000 gil on this", or "I killed 500 morbols for this", etc.