Astrologian is in a good position right now.

[Vlady]

This very thread title is misinformation.
go away, please...

You are pretty decent at trolling I will agree. Last I looked its the same people bashing astrologians at a pace 10 times quicker then I can keep track of despite having 5-6 people defending the job as well.

[DarkerOrange]

Man this is good. I need more popcorn.

Oh and Vlady, I'm STILL waiting to see your A1S clear video on your AST.

[Miiu]

Vlady this is getting beyond absurd. On multiple occasions you have claimed that you are able to push the boundaries of what is possible with AST and people have yet to learn the class before they can realize how ungodly strong the class actually is.
Obviously this followed by people doing the math for you and proving how what you claim to be true is actually not possible even if pick the perfect cards and when prompted for proof you ignore them and just jump on the next statement.
Every time someone comes close to agreeing with you blindly back them up and complain about how the numbers of AST threads are skewing reality and are just there to proof how unskilled everyone is in terms of AST. When you open one apparently its different.

And what a gem of a thread it is. You claim that AST is in a good position and now that you finally set food into savage (congrats btw) you can bestow us with your wisdom once again. But again its just incohesive ramblings. You say ast needs no buff followed by what should be changed/buffed.
You disregard the japanese discussion by saying "they're only talking about cards" which last time I checked is the main hook of the AST class. (Are you maybe playing WHM and think its AST?)
Additionally you say AST will become more popular once Progression in Alex Savage is done and the whole dungeon is on farm mode. Alone that you can make this statement and call the class fine is just so laughable. Will we see more AST clears in the future obviously if people can get new/better gear every week we will see more AST going into savage and those AST who already did and even cleared A1 A2 who still said "This class needs help" apparently didn't unlock the secret of the cards following your logic.

In the end all I can say Vlady you should really stay away from further AST discussion because your opinion is just biased and you can't follow personal made claims up with facts like many other people actually did.
If you enjoy playing AST like you say you do by all means keep using AST. If your raid group doesn't want you to switch classes even better. Keep enjoying the class.

[Whiteroom]

You are pretty decent at trolling I will agree. Last I looked its the same people bashing astrologians at a pace 10 times quicker then I can keep track of despite having 5-6 people defending the job as well.

tbh, you aren't really defending it though, you are just making stuff up with extreme bias. Also as stated above, some of the very statements you make are directly pointing out how weak it is in comparison to the other two.

Also, two of the main others defending the class have been shown as foolish by their own statements. I mean come on, the loudest constantly tells people to l2p and to test as they have, yet they don't know what stacks and what cancels, and their testing consisted of "this one time, I cast a spell, and the other one disappeared.!". While the other made a thread about how OP synastry was.

[Muahbec]

Every bit of misinformation that supposedly gets called out to me I have already gladly shot down but nice try.

Shot down?
Don't make me laugh please.
Just leave.

[echoica]

LOL this thread is just...a new level of ridiculous.

[Eudyptes]

I'm 100% convinced at this point that Vlady is just trolling, and has been for weeks. It's just not possible for someone to be this dense, flat out lie/make up facts, and willfully neglect/ignore/deny any evidence that disproves him. I feel ashamed for believing it for so long.

[DarkmoonVael]

No. Just Astrologians overall are in a good spot. Minus cooldown and the original nerf to stance dancing our healing is strong enough to be slightly below white mage and above scholar where we should be. People want them to be as strong of a healer as white mage or to have stronger shields and even have them crit for double strength with is absurd. We are 5 potency behind white mage and even stronger single target in noc stance which is superb for emergancy recovery and not for higher sustained hps. That is why we need to be allowed to stance change somehow in battle.

SCH has more powerful shields, more powerful dps capabilities, more powerful buffs, and some of the most ridiculously powerful healing abilities in the game.

AST is as near to SCH as your analysis is as near to reality.

How many times do you have to realize that the up front healing of the astro in noc stance is better then white mage. In the long run white mage utilizing its cooldowns will blow the astrologian away yes but being able to perform emergency triage healing the astrologian has an extremely powerful aspected cast with a light speed ben 2 that can easily burst heal anyone to full.

This just isnt true. WHM has a plenitude of regen abilities to cover upfront healing, as well as Benediction and Tetragrammanton. What a N.AST has in comparison is A.Helios which is half the healing potency of medica, and A.Benefic, which has a low healing compenent. Also Lightspeed doesnt burst heal anything, it simply frontloads the healing to the start of the GCD, and still ties you to waiting for the GCD to cast the next heal. Presence of Mind is a superior cooldown compared to it for burst healing and healing throughput.

The hostility level of these forums is going beyond the absurd level.

You bring this on entirely yourself with your attitude. You vomit out misinformation, can not substantiate it, resort to insulting people then have the gaul to tell people to spend money in real life to transfer to your server otherwise you wont provide the evidence on the forums to substantiate your claims.

Like your fabrication I claimed to know savage groups using two astrologians that screamed a bloody answer from 5+ of your previous responses? Please take your own advice and do not fabricate information.

You never backed this claim up, as you never do with anything you say. You wnated people to pay money to transfer to your server otherwise you wouldnt substantiate this claim.

No matter what I do to prove it will be either ignored or picked apart and compared to other posts where I was talking about normal which I did specify normal so if you want to meet in game to discuss this over me wasting my 20 post count for trying to defend myself then we can always meet in game and show tests with buffed cards and without pretty easily. I am not a numbers math person so I am not going to throw formulas over something much more simple which is being in a group and parsing the highest dps job in the game with and without buffs for comparison which I did both as a test and in raids.

My credibility has nothing to do with the fact that astrologians are fine in dealing with all content in the game. You like to go beyond that and state we do not have the healing of a white mage or the personal dps of a scholar in which we should not because we were designed to boost other people's offensive/defensive abilities which is what we do well.

You can continue to downplay the job all you want but you do not have to play it. I am sorry that some people do not want to take the time to master the cards for proper use to maximize its effect but yes if you keep pulling them and randomly slinging them out you will be behind the other two jobs because astrologian does require tight monitoring of other jobs for max card use which is something the other jobs do not have to worry about.

Notice how in this he claims its a design decision to make it that AST can not heal as well as WHM or SCH, and in this thread he has changed his mind once again, and now AST can heal as well as the other 2 healers.

Also note how he expects people to pay money to transfer to his server otherwise he wont back up his claims. For some reason, what he says can only be substantiated in game on another server, and no evidence can be submitted by him to the forums to back up his claims.

Also not that someone in another thread from his server actaully agreed to meet in game so he could prove his claims, so we still have to hear back about that one.

Every bit of misinformation that supposedly gets called out to me I have already gladly shot down but nice try.

You have failed to back up one claim you have made about AST. Not one thing. Zero.

Its like you anti-WHM crusade you had all throughout 2.x. You thought it was a terrible healer and that SCH/SCH combo was far better for raiding with. Then it turned out all the raid experience you had was doing up to turn 2 whilst it was relevant. Well WHM is still as powerful now as it was in 2.x. SCH is likewise. AST can not compete with the 2 of them.

[Whiteroom]

I'm 100% convinced at this point that Vlady is just trolling, and has been for weeks. It's just not possible for someone to be this dense, flat out lie/make up facts, and willfully neglect/ignore/deny any evidence that disproves him. I feel ashamed for believing it for so long.

I've read the guys posts for all of 2 days, and I sure hope hes trolling.

[HyperNovaX]

It is so funny and at the same time annoying as hell to look at him posting and trying to make up complete random and false stuff just to make him look like he's right, lol. Even when there is X amount of people telling him that what he is saying is complete garbage and false, he keeps on posting with either the same BS or just newly thought out misinformation. What is he trying to achieve with this...