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  1. #71
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    Assirra's Avatar
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Of course they talk about cards.

    What in the world is your point?

    Those cards should be a huge part of our healing toolkit like the scholar fairy but it basically does NOTHING to enhanced our heals.

    Currently its basically a useless mechanic as a healer.

    You and a couple other fanatics are the ONLY ones claiming astrologian is fine. It doesn't matter where a change happens but a BIG change NEEDS to happen to make ast in line with the other healers. Everyone agrees with this, however where here people talk about adjusting other spells Japanese people mostly want the card system revamped. Doesn't mean they in ANY WAY agree with your utter nonsense.
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    Last edited by Assirra; 08-08-2015 at 02:01 PM.

  2. #72
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    If astrologians could not get the job done in savage mode then we have an issue. But they can and do. As long as thread after thread after thread of regurgitated complaining continues then I will continue to see the above statement is also repeated like a mantra. Yes we know the white/scholar fanboys want to make fun of the new kid on the block but does it honestly take 10 new threads a day?

    I never said that white mage and scholar combo could not do it easier because it can. Does it mean the astrologian is broken or even mediocre? No it doesnt. Does it mean the other two jobs may be a tad strong? Maybe but up until now I avoid even going down that road nor do I accuse people of learning to play like other astrologians do that defend the job. Some of us are just through of the endless wave of pages reiterating how badly astrologian job is compared to white and scholar when its that low of a level people claim. The more absurd people claim that the job is bad the more absurd I guess my defense of the job gets because you cannot apply the math formulas here when you leave out damage incoming from whatever fight along with latency and other situations that apply to in the game.
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    Last edited by Vlady; 08-08-2015 at 02:07 PM.

  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    If astrologians could not get the job done in savage mode then we have an issue. But they can and do. As long as thread after thread after thread of regurgitated complaining continues then I will continue to see the above statement is also repeated like a mantra. Yes we know the white/scholar fanboys want to make fun of the new kid on the block but does it honestly take 10 new threads a day?
    Are you just dense or trolling at this point?
    It doesn't matter if we can clear it. We need to be in line with the other healers, it's called balance for crying out loud.
    You keep trying to make this problem seem smaller then it is but shouldn't it start to get in your head that only you and maybe 3 more in this entire forum think ast is fine and hundreds people think you are wrong?

    Also, you talk about thread after thread but yourself created yet ANOTHER thread. You are part of the problem.
    I wish so hard we had a mod just slam all these threads down and create a mega astro thread but i know that is not going to work.
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  4. #74
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Vlady, do you not see the biggest issue here? AST main selling point is the CARD BUFFS!! that is the ONLY biggest tool in this job that is unique compare to the other two healers. Right now, that buffs, are SO SO SO BAD, it is beyond pathetic. Most players will be ok with the healing capabilities of AST, if the card buffs are so good that it outweighs all the other part of this job that is lacking. Granted a few abilities on AST could use another tweak to be on par with the other healers. We are not WHM/SCH fanboys making fun the new kid on the block. I personally WANT AST to be as good, or even BETTER depending on certain outcome compared to the other two healers.

    Seriously, sometimes I think you are just trolling or way to dense to understand the problem of AST. It's not the healing, it is the CARD buffs that is the biggest issue here. As of now, there is very little reason to bring AST to any of the content in the game, NONE, ZERO, NADA. You are better off with a real healer + bard. AST now is just a wannabe healer who is neither a good healer to replace SCH or WHM, or a good buffer (who heal decently) to replace Bard or Machinist.

    If the card buffs is AMAZING, at least you can strategize to have the WHM to shoulder the big heal, make the AST to back up heal and buffer, and bring another DPS to significantly turn the tide of the battle. Or you can bring AST to main heal with some buffs thrown in + SCH and Bard/Machinist.
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 08-08-2015 at 02:13 PM.

  5. #75
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    Veigas Shiffer
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Ok Vlady, we get it, you like the job.
    Now you can stop all this nonsense and leave.
    This is getting really annoying.
    AST IS WEAK and that's it, face it, that's the truth, heals are weak, buffs are weak, its completelly crushed by the actual good healers (aka. WHM/SCH), and it WILL receive a huge buff, even if you don't want it to receive, also, RGN is terrible.
    And just in case you could not understand.
    AST.IS.WEAK.

    This will get you nowhere, for every misinformation you spread 5-6 players will come and prove that you are indeed wrong.
    Just give up, stop trying to make AST look amazing, it isn't, FACE IT!
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  6. #76
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    Its like you are just wanting to hear what you want to hear despite me typing it out as clear as I can type it. I created one thread in last 10 ish days compared to let me count..... 15 threads on the first two pages alone... Notice a trend here? And for every misinformation you speak about I will gladly counter it. So it goes both ways.
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  7. #77
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    Assirra's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Its like you are just wanting to hear what you want to hear despite me typing it out as clear as I can type it. I created one thread in last 10 ish days compared to let me count..... 15 threads on the first two pages alone... Notice a trend here?
    Yea because those 15 threads are made by the same person...
    Come on now, give up, go away and do everyone a pleasure.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Its like you are just wanting to hear what you want to hear despite me typing it out as clear as I can type it. I created one thread in last 10 ish days compared to let me count..... 15 threads on the first two pages alone... Notice a trend here? And for every misinformation you speak about I will gladly counter it. So it goes both ways.
    You "counter" it with yet MORE misinformation.
    Just stop, this is getting ridiculous.
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    You "counter" it with yet MORE misinformation.
    Just stop, this is getting ridiculous.
    Every bit of misinformation that supposedly gets called out to me I have already gladly shot down but nice try.
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  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Every bit of misinformation that supposedly gets called out to me I have already gladly shot down but nice try.
    This very thread title is misinformation.
    go away, please...
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