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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    No, I am asking to create a race created by the Allagans. I will edit it to clarify. =)
    It still will not work for the very same reasons as having actual Allagans. What dragon in their right mind would even ally themselves with ANY sentient being the Allagan's created? So far the dragon's themselves think the what the Allagan's have created are abominations.

    In Azys Lla there is a floating research center were a FATE spawns called "Out of Sight, Out of Mind", and in that floating area there are dragon parts in green tubes. Notably dragon heads and dragon limbs.
    Why would any dragon forgive Allagans and Allagan creations that have aided Allagans for thousands of years?

    So you see your idea, no matter how you try to sell it, would NOT work.

    An Allagan Warrior of Light is NOT possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    It still will not work for the very same reasons as having actual Allagans. What dragon in their right mind would even ally themselves with ANY sentient being the Allagan's created? So far the dragon's themselves think the what the Allagan's have created are abominations.

    In Azys Lla there is a floating research center were a FATE spawns called "Out of Sight, Out of Mind", and in that floating area there are dragon parts in green tubes. Notably dragon heads and dragon limbs.
    Why would any dragon forgive Allagans and Allagan creations that have aided Allagans for thousands of years?

    So you see your idea, no matter how you try to sell it, would NOT work.

    An Allagan Warrior of Light is NOT possible.
    For one. How would they know? We are wearing Allagan stuff all the time and some outfits from level 50, which most of us still wore speaking to them which were allagan did not seem to offend them.

    For two. Where is your lore to back up that fact that something cannot be a champion of light? It can only be a Humanoid? Can't be anything else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    For one. How would they know? We are wearing Allagan stuff all the time and some outfits from level 50, which most of us still wore speaking to them which were allagan did not seem to offend them.
    i think the dragons have been around long enough to know that the allagan empire is long gone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    For one. How would they know? We are wearing Allagan stuff all the time and some outfits from level 50, which most of us still wore speaking to them which were allagan did not seem to offend them.

    For two. Where is your lore to back up that fact that something cannot be a champion of light? It can only be a Humanoid? Can't be anything else?
    I can see you have not even stepped foot in Azys Lla yet. Once you get to Azys Lla and do all the main story quest, you will understand why Allagan's can never be a warrior of light and how the dragons would be able to tell an Allagan from any other being on Hydalen; specifically the Main Scenario quests "Fetters of Lament." I advise you to finish the Heavensward MSQ before you return to this thread to further embarrass yourself with trying to push this idea when you haven't even finished the MSQ.

    I also advise you to complete the Binding Coil's of Bahamut as the story in it details the Allagans tampering and systematic imprisonment of dragons.

    After you've done that; THEN you can come back and answer your own question of HOW the dragons could tell an Allagan from any other being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
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    So what? I think are going way off topic now. Midgarsomir doesnt care what you are, judges you for what you have done. Image you are an elezen, dragons have reasons to hate elezens for same reasons like allagans
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    So what? I think are going way off topic now. Midgarsomir doesnt care what you are, judges you for what you have done. Image you are an elezen, dragons have reasons to hate elezens for same reasons like allagans
    We are not going off topic, we are still discussing Allagans we are simply stating why it will not work. Also please re-watch every Cutscene dealing with Heavensward and the Binding Coil of Bahamut because you seem to be missing a lot of info on the history of the Allagans and Dragons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    We are not going off topic, we are still discussing Allagans we are simply stating why it will not work.
    Btw I have done everything, and yes I know all what happened. Im well aware fo the lore of the dragons and allagans

    But still that doesnt respond what I just told you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    You didnt respond what I just told you.
    Yeah.. you must have been a Cutscene skipper. It's Ishgardians that SOME dragons hate.. Not Elezens as an entire race. And only ONE dragon had a seething hatred for them, and that was Nidhogg. And we put an end to him. If you had bothered to watch any of the cutscenes you'd find out that the war against Ishgard and Dragons died when we killed Nidhogg. Now it's an internal war within Ishgards hierarchy and Ascians that we have to worry about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    We are not going off topic, we are still discussing Allagans we are simply stating why it will not work. Also please re-watch every Cutscene dealing with Heavensward and the Binding Coil of Bahamut because you seem to be missing a lot of info on the history of the Allagans and Dragons.
    I like how you avoid awnsering important questions. What about the other things Dragons hate? What about all the technology weapons we used? What about being an Elezen? What about being a Dragoon? They seemed to literally NOT CARE WHO YOU ARE. THEY CONSIDER YOU INFERIOR. However, they did give you a chance to prove yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I like how you avoid awnsering important questions. What about the other things Dragons hate? What about all the technology weapons we used? What about being an Elezen? What about being a Dragoon? They seemed to literally NOT CARE WHO YOU ARE. THEY CONSIDER YOU INFERIOR. However, they did give you a chance to prove yourself.
    See my post above yours. And what questions am I ignoring? I'm answering all of them. Go.finish.your.msq.

    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoWafflez View Post
    Except that Nidhogg isn't dead

    So I think you are also guilty of missing part of a cutscene
    If you are referring to his eyes... Good gods help you. He is dead, His eyes can exist without a body. His influence can still take over someone via his stolen eyes.

    I feel like I'm repeating myself in this thread, I'll just leave you earless mongers to your fantasies that will never happen.
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