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  1. #21
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    MistralLevante's Avatar
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    Mistral Levante
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    1) Out of combat MP regen is so high that the mana used to cast stoneskin while waiting for a pull is totally inconsequential. I don't mind casting it early to ensure that most of the group has SS even if the tank pulls without waiting on buffs. 6/8 people having stoneskin on a pull is better than 0/8.

    2) There are some situations you would see me cast Medica II 'unnecessarily to heal 1-2 people'.
    -I expect periodic light aoe soon after, and I'm getting Medica II HoTs up to take care of it completely so I can focus on other things.
    -There will be some damage that makes the HoT useful, and I want to burn a bit of extra MP so I can use shroud of saints sooner because I expect a roughly 4-5min fight. Using it early means I get to use it twice.
    -I anticipate high movement with a good chance of people taking damage, so I put up Medica II to give people a higher chance of lasting till I can patch them up.

    3) Either swiftcast is down, or there is no excuse.
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  2. #22
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    dayspring83's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    E'lir Dayspring
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by justinjarjar View Post
    ... I just like casting it to do something
    Ugh this drives me crazier than all of the bad healing habits mentioned in this post. Why can't people (and their characters) be still for a minute? Noticed that there are a lot of people who have to move or jump every second.

    Sorry I'm done. Struck a nerve. Carry on.
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  3. #23
    Simple, they don't know and some one should take the time to tell them politely. Perhaps they might get offended but if done politely they might appreciate it a lot more than just calling them dumb or dismissing them as lazy.

    Something like:


    "[2nd healer's name] pls can u raise me asap when I fall? [state reason here so they understand why]."
    "You can save more mp if u wait till they are out of their cutscene [state reason here]"

    Anyways, whenever some one tells me advice I prefer to thank them so from my perspective it seems logical to just tell them what the problem is.
    (0)

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  4. #24
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    Yumi_umi's Avatar
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    1& 2 are pretty much explained by ppl BUT

    3) is cuz if lets say, the boss is about to do some crazy dmg and ur 50% mp. R u gonna rez or heal THEN rez on an opening.
    I have seeeeeeeen so many healers insta rez dps just cuz they saw they died to only have gone Oom and be useless during the raid wide dmg or tank busters.

    Good example is during atma linga in rav ex. I rez during atma linga so tht by the time they r up they will have breathing room before the next stomp. Ppl forget they have invincibility after a rez so ppl derp and kill themselves.
    I also would rather heal up the party ,asses my mp and then decide if the rez will really help.
    Also bards/mch r part of the reason y making a decision is hard as 8/10 will not use their mp recovery skill till u Spam chat.
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  5. #25
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    Fevelle's Avatar
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    Character
    Fiona Greentear
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by FaizeD View Post
    1. Somewhat rational fear that people will run off before buffs which means casting them twice anyway. Why are people watching cutscenes?
    2. Dumb.
    3. Extreme tunnel vision, or irrational contempt for you dying.

    My gripes:
    1. SCHs that spam succor.
    2. Full-time DPS only healers that I have to carry.
    3. If I'm already in a sect or have a fairy out, you better roll with the other option.
    Maybe I'm overthinking your post, but I actually use Succor every time there is incoming party damage or if I see that hate is spreading and mobs are going everywhere and attacking the dps, to give tank time for pulling them back while I focus on him. No one ever said it was annoying or wrong, and I have ZERO experience at being a Scholar (only got to lv45 SCH on my last character, rip) so I would like some advice and feedback.
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  6. #26
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    1. I want to get going as quick as possible so I'll protect the majority of people then pick up the rest as we get moving or let the other Healer pick them up. It's often just a random stoneskin and they can handle that after I blow my stoneskin II on most people.

    2. Varies but mostly I'm just healing in the least amount of time I can so I can switch back to CS. Unless there is something really specific coming up I don't need to hold all my mana I have loads of it and two ways to regen mana. A single medica can often crit and will heal most damage to more than one party member. Spaming cure over two or three people is a waste when I could be doing more with that time.

    3. It's one of two situations. I don't have swiftcast ready and I'd rather heal the people who are still alive and make sure nothing goes wrong since I'm now the sole Healer since your stupid ass got yourself killed. If I need you now I'd PoM and try to get you up. The other situation is you are really annoying whining in chat that you want a res when you derped into something and in that case you can eat floor for all I care until I need an extra Healer.
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    Last edited by MXMoondoggie; 08-08-2015 at 08:58 AM.

  7. #27
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    SilverRhyme's Avatar
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    Character
    K'ahn Rasha
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Maybe I'm overthinking your post, but I actually use Succor every time there is incoming party damage or if I see that hate is spreading and mobs are going everywhere and attacking the dps, to give tank time for pulling them back while I focus on him. No one ever said it was annoying or wrong, and I have ZERO experience at being a Scholar (only got to lv45 SCH on my last character, rip) so I would like some advice and feedback.
    This. Succor is also used to mitigate incoming damage. It's not just for healing damage taken, and it's only really worth it for that if you use Emergency Tactics anyway. Scholars rely on shields to keep the party alive too.
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  8. #28
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    Character
    Rawker Stone
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    1. Better to do stuff than nothing or impatient people who loves to run and leave the healer as soon as the instance starts
    2. Lazy healing or miscalc on trying to mitigate incoming aoe damage.
    3. Swiftcast is down or the other healer is more of a liability.
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  9. #29
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    Leiloni's Avatar
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    Character
    Leiloni Kahu
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverRhyme View Post
    This. Succor is also used to mitigate incoming damage. It's not just for healing damage taken, and it's only really worth it for that if you use Emergency Tactics anyway. Scholars rely on shields to keep the party alive too.
    I like it when SCH use their shields more personally. Makes everything a lot easier and the healers gel together so much better.
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  10. #30
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    Whiteprincess's Avatar
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    Character
    White Princess
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    1. Dumb or they know the tank and he she tends to rush out of there. Mp is not a problem, we are just standing at the start.
    2. Depends on content. Doing it is a good thing if the healer dps' s on normal dungeon. A good healer knows how to manage mp and dps. Rather than heal and stand there.
    3. Dumb, if what you said is correct. Rez cost a lot if his\her mana was below a certain point. Ya if the fight is easy probably. Was waiting for swift cast. Cuz it wasn't a big deal. Or the person panicked. ..
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