Scholars, dps, Accuracy, and you.

[Tide]

I dont think this has been brought up/lately. The savage fights are supposedly tuned to not include healer(maybe tank) Dps with proper gear levels. however, we are clearly not at that point right now, therefore the games raiding scene has been ALL ABOUT: Moar deeps.

My point. The devs, KNOWING that we would be undergeared going into alex savage, decided to not give us healers, ANY accuracy. Why? Maybe they are just sadistic(most likely :P) Obviously to meet enrage timers, we would have to have out dps friends optimize rotations/CDs to pump out max numbers and make the remainder up with tank dps and healer dps. So wouldn't one think that perhaps they should just give us accuracy on gear? on the Alex 190 gear? on this gear that is entry level into alex savage? as we are going to be dpsing regardless of our accuracy levels. All I see this concept of "not needing healers to dps" is a headache for the healers while dpsing with loads of misses.

[Tide]

TL;DR: No acc on gear bc healers shouldn't need to dps with proper gear. Yet we dont have proper gear, as it's not possible to get the proper gear. So therefore we are dpsing with loads of misses=headaches.


Comments? Thoughts? Ideas?

Side note: I do hear of crafted right side melded with acc gear being a thing, anyone have info on this/worth it?/numbers on what acc we should be at/what numbers we would achieve with melded craft gear?

personally don't know how much of the gap we will make up with this...ball park as I'm at work atm, I think I have about 350-ish acc. I think casters need 500-600?ish

again, thoughts?/info?

[FreeLancer4]

Most groups will be running with a bard, if your fortunate enough he can rain of death for you occasionally.

[DkDerek]

Dps checks are implemented for a number of reasons.

The main reason is so we log on every week to cap esoterics, granting raid groups more power each and every week. Once they overcome their first wall, they will run into the next. Need more esoterics. Need more weeks.

Putting ACC on healer gear will ultimately ruin their current model. If they did that, they would have to tune the fights around healers dpsing.

[Tide]

Dps checks are implemented for a number of reasons.

The main reason is so we log on every week to cap esoterics, granting raid groups more power each and every week. Once they overcome their first wall, they will run into the next. Need more esoterics. Need more weeks.

Putting ACC on healer gear will ultimately ruin their current model. If they did that, they would have to tune the fights around healers dpsing.

I get what you are saying, but healers are having to dps as it is now, with or without acc. Why not give healers some acc on gear and not give us the pain of missing all the time. I'm sure they realized when tuning the fights that, oh shit, with their 190 gear the dps wont be able to meet the enrage.

I haven't worked out what dps increase would be w.o the missed spells, would it really make that big of a difference to throw off their balancing?

[FoxyAreku]

Nah they expect healers to dps, seems fairly obvious to me.

I think accuracy changed a bit with the expansion, because I'm missing less in savage than I did back in final coil with a full accuracy scholar zeta. :S It's interesting..

[Marcu18]

I hope they add some accuracy to our gear cause missing on hunts, bosses and Bismarck back and wasting mp and aether stacks on moves that miss is disappointing..

[Khyan]

I have done floor savage and you can do 750-850 dps as a scholar (without bard ) on the 1st phase during A1 savage for example. And less than 400 on 2nd phase, I don't remember

I have one crafted ring and foods that can help for the lack of accuracy but you will not really miss too much, it's not as if you gonna do t13 without accuracy.

[DarkmoonVael]

I am sure Yoshi-P commented on this before, stating that accuracy is coming back on healer gear in future gearsets.

Also i think droping ilvl with crafted gear to meld accuracy into isnt that viable at the moment. You loose too much MIND and i dont think its possible to actually meet the accuracy cap, so net gains may not be that great for dps increase.

Putting ACC on healer gear will ultimately ruin their current model. If they did that, they would have to tune the fights around healers dpsing.

Actually they did that in 2.X and still didnt tune raids to take into account healer dps. It was possible to get to accuracy requirement as a healer in Coils (dont think it was in First, but it was for subsequent ones).

[Renavi]

You can use i150 crafted accessories to meet accuracy checks, but(outside of VIT), using i180 crafted left side for accuracy will be better than using the i150 accessories. At the moment, accuracy isn't really necessary, but it definitely is helpful if you decide to try and cap it. I'm not sure on the caps for A1S+A2S but anywhere above 475 should give you 95%+ accuracy, and A3S cap for casters is 530.

If you don't have the kind of gil to drop right now for left side crafted, wait for the i180 right side to come out, because a mix of those will most likely be best if you want to DPS often. Right now if you cap accuracy you're giving up an absolute ton of MND so you have to do as much as you can or it's just not worth it. I think when the entire party is i200+, healer DPS will be unnecessary, at least for A1S/A2S, which would let groups reach i205 eventually, where healer DPS wouldn't be needed for A3S and probably A4S. Everyone should contribute though.