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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentt View Post
    I like how you just completey ignore the point of the ability, the AF stack.
    The AF stack that you have to spend 2 of on energy drain (which get acc checked with no acc gear) just to come out MP equivalent, and then have time to hardcast a summon or spend your swiftcast (probably on CD if you're in a bad enough situation to use this ability anyway).

    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    Every job have a very situational skill, Dissipation is SCH's.
    The only situation in which Dissipation is useful is a dps burn phase. If you have an actual healing emergency it's almost always a mistake to use.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pentt View Post
    SCH does not need buffs. Dissapation is fine. Why would we need something this grossly overpowered while our AST brothers are suffering is beyond me.
    Dissipation is total crap. Pretending otherwise is your prerogative. No one complains louder than astrologians so I'm sure they'll be overpowered in no time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pentt View Post
    Comparing 3 lustrates to 10 embraces is comedic, one can be used in half a second, the other can take up to 25. I think I've given up on trying to explain that dissapation is an emergency cooldown for extreme situations, people keep trying to twist it into something it isn't.
    No other healing job can pump out a theoretical 6x600 potency heals in 6 seconds. Meaning there is 0 content designed for that level of healing because then scholar would be mandatory and people would cry.

    I think I've given up on trying to explain that dissipation is a bad emergency cooldown for non-existent situations, that leaves you worse-off than when you began, people keep trying to twist it into something it isn't. Half the people in this thread haven't even followed OP's rhetorical flourish so I'm not sure why I was expecting anything substantive.
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    Last edited by ckc22; 08-07-2015 at 09:30 PM.

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    I think I've given up on trying to explain that dissipation is a bad emergency cooldown for non-existent situations, that leaves you worse-off than when you began, people keep trying to twist it into something it isn't. Half the people in this thread haven't even followed OP's rhetorical flourish so I'm not sure why I was expecting anything substantive.
    Hi again. You must have not done any savage Alexander, either?

    Yes, dissipation will leave you worse off if you
    A) Don't resummon your fairy as soon as available.
    B) BRD or MCH do not activate MP refresh skills.
    C) Second healer not backing you up, e.i. Lack of communication.
    D) Several weeks in without eso gear for piety and/or food that help curb summoning cost.
    E) Using the ability without for thought.

    Dissipation is a terrible skill for people who with no intention to raid in difficult content because is is a defacto raid ability.
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    get over it, dissipation is fine, it has its uses for healing and just for getting stacks back.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blessedbythesun View Post
    Hi again. You must have not done any savage Alexander, either?

    Yes, dissipation will leave you worse off if you
    A) Don't resummon your fairy as soon as available.
    B) BRD or MCH do not activate MP refresh skills.
    C) Second healer not backing you up, e.i. Lack of communication.
    D) Several weeks in without eso gear for piety and/or food that help curb summoning cost.
    E) Using the ability without for thought.

    Dissipation is a terrible skill for people who with no intention to raid in difficult content because is is a defacto raid ability.
    Please point out other lvl 60 abilities that require 2+ other party members to pick up your slack. I'll ignore the bs catty part of your post.
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    Last edited by ckc22; 08-07-2015 at 10:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentt View Post
    The healing increase is not the point of dissapation, it's the full AF stack. It's a move for emergencies where you need to dump lustrates into something and there's no time or you flubbed your AF management(topping a tank off for busters in a1s after prey, final phase of a2s If the tanks are getting too many stacks. Etc).

    Generally speaking you dont want to use this ability, but it can save a wipe.
    I completely agree that this is how it's supposed to be used. It's one of those skills you leave on the backburner of your hotbar until that one situational instance you need it. I don't think it's a very good CD, but I understand its intended use.

    They should make the fairy return to you once the healing buff wears off though. I don't think it would be a particularly amazing CD with that change, but it might see more regular use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    Please point out other lvl 60 abilities that require 2+ other party members to pick up your slack. I'll ignore the bs catty part of your post.
    Uh, I don't know of any content that exists that need more than two players so I will take that as a typo. Anyway, I couldn't tell you, I don't play any other jobs in raid content. I do know when the WHM is low on MP, I am helping by picking up their slack so they can refresh their MP. That should teamwork 101.

    You can ignore my "bs catty part" all you want but the simple matter of fact is that the skill, for better or worse, has its uses where it is intended. Bitch all you want, but if you have been doing AS as SCH or watched SCH pov clear playthoughs, you will see dissipation being used for the obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blessedbythesun View Post
    Uh, I don't know of any content that exists that need more than two players so I will take that as a typo. Anyway, I couldn't tell you, I don't play any other jobs in raid content. I do know when the WHM is low on MP, I am helping by picking up their slack so they can refresh their MP. That should teamwork 101.

    You can ignore my "bs catty part" all you want but the simple matter of fact is that the skill, for better or worse, has its uses where it is intended. Bitch all you want, but if you have been doing AS as SCH or watched SCH pov clear playthoughs, you will see dissipation being used for the obvious.
    There was no typo you just can't seem to follow simple sentences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    There was no typo you just can't seem to follow simple sentences.
    I thought about replying to your earlier response but since you've devloved to arguing about grammar I don't see the point. I've already mentioned specific situations on fights where the spell can see use but you refuse to acknowledge them, it's pretty clear you've not done much of Savage.

    Just going to agree to disagree at this point, if your whining gets disspation buffed l will deifinitely be happy but I'm not holding my breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    There was no typo you just can't seem to follow simple sentences.
    Wellington was going to edit it because I read it wrong but it's hard with out an edit button. My stance and rest of my post is still the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentt View Post
    I thought about replying to your earlier response but since you've devloved to arguing about grammar I don't see the point. I've already mentioned specific situations on fights where the spell can see use but you refuse to acknowledge them, it's pretty clear you've not done much of Savage.

    Just going to agree to disagree at this point, if your whining gets dissipation buffed l will deifinitely be happy but I'm not holding my breath.
    I actually said nothing about grammar. Nice try on faux-outrage though. I've mentioned various places where it has uses. They're just overly punishing and situational to the point where I think the ability is bad and a mistake 99.5% of the time.

    I'm sorry that you think everyone who doesn't agree with you is a whiner.
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