Does PLD Feel Shafted?

[Launched]

40% is deceptive for Sentinel, as it's multiplicative with Shield Oath, meaning it's more along the lines of a 32% damage reduction instead of a 40% one. Which also means that Sentinel is a more like a 16% damage reduction. Meanwhile Warrior's 30% reduction, due to how their EHP is set up, is still 30%, meaning that, with both tanks in Tank Stance, the cooldowns are practically the same effectiveness.

That's not how you compare mitigation. Shield Oath, Grit and Defiance all increase eHP by the same amount. Ignore tank stances when comparing cooldowns since they're effectively identical. It doesn't matter that two are a % reduction and one is a HP/healing increase. If all 3 tanks took a hit that did 100% of their HP in tank stance, Sentinel would reduce that by 40% while Vengeance/Shadow Wall only reduce it by 30%.


Every fight (except maybe A4S) still has physical damage to block. You passively have a chance to reduce incoming damage while WAR/DRK have to use cooldowns. That's an advantage, even if it's just blocking Oppressor autoattacks.

[Anger]

That's not how you compare mitigation. Shield Oath, Grit and Defiance all increase eHP by the same amount. Ignore tank stances when comparing cooldowns since they're effectively identical. It doesn't matter that two are a % reduction and one is a HP/healing increase. If all 3 tanks took a hit that did 100% of their HP in tank stance, Sentinel would reduce that by 40% while Vengeance/Shadow Wall only reduce it by 30%.


Every fight (except maybe A4S) still has physical damage to block. You passively have a chance to reduce incoming damage while WAR/DRK have to use cooldowns. That's an advantage, even if it's just blocking Oppressor autoattacks.

Sure, but if your healer can't heal autoattacks.....

[Rocond]

Sure, but if your healer can't heal autoattacks.....

It's not that the healer can't heal auto attacks. It's about taking less damage giving them more time to dps.

[Anger]

It's not that the healer can't heal auto attacks. It's about taking less damage giving them more time to dps.

So, would you argue this alone gives the Paladin an edge over other tanks?

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

So, would you argue this alone gives the Paladin an edge. . .?

I wouldn't call it an edge but I would call it a balance lol.

[Rocond]

So, would you argue this alone gives the Paladin an edge over other tanks?

I don't know that it gives pld an edge over the other two tanks, but I would definetly say that mitigation is the highlight of the pld class. I know a lot of people would disagree, but I personally think the tanks are balanced just fine right now in terms of what they bring to raid. So far, A1S through A3S can be beaten with any tank combination.