Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Sleigh]

If i have the i170 set, what's better: to go for the eso weapon first, or the chest + ring?

i170 weapon too? If so, probably the weapon. Most debates on chest + ring or weapon first have i190 weapon as the baseline.

[lirovaldo]

Yep, i170 weapon too. Thanks for awnsering!

[Dervy]

We need to bribe Dervy, so he'll do SMN stats weights next. I have cookies.

I have someone gathering Summoner data for me. I forgot to ask him to get me Garuda/Ifrit data. If someone could start collecting Garuda + Ifrit Data with varying MD/INT/DET/CRT/SS so I can see how those scales scale proportionately, then all I'll need to do just input the GCD rotation and it's done.

[Sidra]

Here is 1 set of data to start working from

WD: 102 Det: 340 SS: 586 Crit: 759 INT: 934 STR: 194 iLVL: 186

Garuda's 100 pot Windblade:
Min: 531
Max: 586

Ifrit's 120 pot Burning Strike:
Min: 379
Max: 418

Ifrit's AutoAttack:
Min: 190
Max: 210

Notes:
-Data gained from 20 min dummy parses
-Even w/ over 200 SS, their abilities are still 3.0 second recasts despite my own GCD dropping down to 2.41
-Have we ever understood why Burning Strike hits weaker than Wind Blade?

[Minorinz]

thanks for helping out dervy

[Judge_Xero]

-Data gained from 20 min dummy parses
-Even w/ over 200 SS, their abilities are still 3.0 second recasts despite my own GCD dropping down to 2.41
-Have we ever understood why Burning Strike hits weaker than Wind Blade?

I believe it was due to Ifrit's attacks being based off WD instead of MD (physical damage)

I think that you would need to record the # of attacks over time in order to properly record the effect of SS for pets. Although Burning Crush and Aerial Slash set to 28s upon use so I wonder if they are effected as well or if it is just a server delay.

[Sidra]

Their GCD times are listed, why would you have to count them (aside from perhaps Ifrit's autoattack)?

[ShinryuReishiki]

The (re)cast times on the pet tooltips do not update to reflect the difference in speed. The time remaining countdown which appears on the icon of the tooltip, however, does correctly reflect it. In any case, the difference is small enough that it's hard to perceive without having both speeds going side-by-side.

Edit:
Just did a quick test, recording at 60fps and counting the frames it takes before the first tick down on the timer.

At 354 (+0) Spell Speed, Wind Blade's recast is 3.0s, Aerial Slash is 30.0s.
At 559 (+205) Spell Speed, Wind Blade's recast is 2.9s, Aerial Slash is 29.03s.

[Dervy]

WTB perfect GCD/oCD usage/placement SMN network data parse on a Dummy pls. Inbox me on reddit with the logs. Getting work done for Jobs now.

[Akariel]

A few questions for SMN in A1S:

1. Do you usually try to DoT both Oppressors? I'm able to do it when the 0.5 lands but after that I get too busy with the other mechanics to put much DoTs on the one not assigned to me.

2. How do you usually hook and kill your add? (e.g. Ruin2 for quick grab? Start with Bio2 to get dots up asap?) I don't have trouble killing mine but I do use a fester on it and sometimes Painflare if I think it's not going down fast enough. Is using fester/PF on it a dps loss and can Dots+ruins suffice?

3. Do you use bane at all aside from when the first 2 adds land?

4. Do you ever go in Trance during adds phase or save it always for Oppressor?

Any other tips appreciated .