Oh SE, You completely missed the main problem with endgame crafting/gathering

[Ibi]

Then I hope you enjoy having subpar equipment you cannot properly use for glamouring either, since it cannot be dyed.

Wait, when did they change it so that you couldn't use gear that can't be dyed for glamor? I must have missed that change.

I randomly picked a piece of gear and went with the BSM body
The difference between the i170 HQ melded, and the i180 token piece is 22 craftsmanship and 7 control. I don't call that miniscule.

It's impossible to reach those numbers, even if you used all Grade V materia. The closest you can come is +19 Craftsmanship and +7 Control or +22 Craftsmanship and +2 Control.

If you use all Grade IV materia, you can reach +4 Craftsmanship and +3 Control. At current prices on Hyperion, the materia would cost an average of 1.5 million gil.

[chrillix]

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I hadn't considered the actual materia needed. Penta-melding t5's doesn't seem to be a realistic option (especially since we still can't convert gear for T5's!!!), but I could see using 1-2. I guess it's hard for me to sacrifice the option of being able to obtain higher stats when I don't know what the requirements will be for the next patches crafted items.

[Chrolo]

I hadn't considered the actual materia needed. Penta-melding t5's doesn't seem to be a realistic option (especially since we still can't convert gear for T5's!!!), but I could see using 1-2. I guess it's hard for me to sacrifice the option of being able to obtain higher stats when I don't know what the requirements will be for the next patches crafted items.

I doubt the 3 star recipes will need higher stats than red scrip gear can provide you. They would otherwise screw over every crafter who went for red scrip gear instead of the crafted version.

[SendohJin]

I doubt the 3 star recipes will need higher stats than red scrip gear can provide you. They would otherwise screw over every crafter who went for red scrip gear instead of the crafted version.

you won't need it, it'll just be the difference between 100% HQ or maxing out at 80% HQ.

[chrillix]

you won't need it, it'll just be the difference between 100% HQ or maxing out at 80% HQ.

Could be. And if that's the case, who's going to want to risk that 20% when NQ'ing can cost you millions of gil or hours and hours dealing with the red script nonsense.

[Ibi]

You can also glamour the worst looking item you can find. That's up to you.

You think the new DoH sets when not dyed are the worst looking item you can find, but that they're totally worth glamoring if they're the dyable version? Okay then. No accounting for taste, I guess. Or hyperbole.

[scarebearz]

I doubt the 3 star recipes will need higher stats than red scrip gear can provide you. They would otherwise screw over every crafter who went for red scrip gear instead of the crafted version.

Have you already forgotten Lucis tools? xD