Oh SE, You completely missed the main problem with endgame crafting/gathering

[chrillix]

3.1 is where you will see those changes, they can't do them now, those adjustments are just to sensitive to just throw into the game on a system that is barely 2 weeks old.

It would make more sense to make those changes now, rather than a month and a half down the road when people have invested more time into the current system. You create a bigger rift in the system the longer you wait.

[Gilthas]

What would be the motivation behind this? Why would the developers want higher prices on the AH? I don't see why there would be any concern about raising the prices. If anything I would think the dev's would want lower prices so more people have access to more things.

When ARR was released crafters and gatherers complained about how they couldn't make money because there was too much competition. SE's answer to this "problem" has been adding grinds to crafting/gathering and making mats rare to drive people away from these activities to limit supply and drive up prices.

[Yukiko]

Why is it that its always the people that want change that are the villains? Sorry we don't see egregious amounts of slave work for the right to make substandard gear as acceptable payoff for gameplay...

...slave work...

Say hello to a common asia grinder!
FFXIV becomes more and more a game made only for asian/korean players...

[Gilthas]

You see the issue?

So bad systems should never be changed because players will get mad?

I got my Atmas when it was hard, I didn't complain when they increased the drop rate because I'm not entirely selfish.

[ValkyrieL]

I only been capping/buying scrips to turn in for favors....are you telling me now that this coming reset ill be 33 hours behind....just running around chasings nodes?
Some1 tell me this is a joke, just cappig is already time consuming + raid time/eso cap.

[Kiyyto]

Lol. It is really true. They made ppl think what they wanted. Very clever indeed but they are going to lose many subs if they keep doing this.

They absolutely will lose mine, idc about this game at all if they keep crafting irrelevant, as it is now.

[Nekodar]

You can either go for scrips gear (I currently have two fisher and two goldsmith gear pieces myself)... Or you can save the rowena's tokens until some day later when things may have changed.
If you feel that you don't need the new crafted gear for anything, why work so hard to do favors and craft this gear now?
Why not save the tokens for the future?

Or is it the fear that you'll be behind the day they do change more, and/or the crafted gear becomes relevant?

[Nekodar]

They absolutely will lose mine, idc about this game at all if they keep crafting irrelevant, as it is now.

Crafting is relevant today.
Maybe you can't craft something so people can skip esoterics/savage gear, but you shouldn't be able to craft such gear to begin with.
Anyone that wants good gear while levelling is going to look for crafted gear for the slots they don't yet have dungeon gear of a suitable level. While there are also plenty of people that don't give a damn and use zenith/i90 gear for Dusk Vigil, there's also people that want to use better gear than that.

"Crafting is irrelevant" has been a constant complaint from endgame crafters since 2.0, yet they somehow managed to make hundreds of millions of gil with that irrelevant crafting...

[chrillix]

I only been capping/buying scrips to turn in for favors....are you telling me now that this coming reset ill be 33 hours behind....just running around chasings nodes?
Some1 tell me this is a joke, just cappig is already time consuming + raid time/eso cap.

33.75 hours to be exact to use 3 weeks worth of favors.

[Warlyx]

When ARR was released crafters and gatherers complained about how they couldn't make money because there was too much competition. SE's answer to this "problem" has been adding grinds to crafting/gathering and making mats rare to drive people away from these activities to limit supply and drive up prices.

yet here we are....this poor alchemists making 1 draconian potion at time, 30 mins crafting (+ who knows farming mats) to burn them all in 2h of raiding.....overpriced as hell because are annoying to craft ,and no1 buys because paying that much for a consumable is asinine....


same goes for some HQ food....

i remember when in other games u farmed for 5h , to enjoy 1h , that drove ppl away from that game , because is stupid.....paying hard earned money every month to grind ,farm ,craft , and then finally being able to enjoy the game....?

Crafting is supposed to be a fun addition and ppl need to enjoy doing it....

SE need to RE-LEARN....