Fending vs. Slaying accessories at this point in the game

[UlricCraft]

No they won't. No cleric healer is out DPSing a stance dancing/STR WAR that knows what's up, hate to break it to you. You won't even come close.

Have you seen a White Mage AOE parse?

Trash pull prior to A3 all the way up to the Tail Screw add.
Watch a 100% CS WHM out-dps your BLM. Forget about tanks.

I'm not saying at the very end of the dungeon a healer would be #3 on the list, but for group pulls where you can survive 2 hits by yourself, a stun-locked mob will take as much damage as if there were 3 dps as opposed to 2 & a tank.

[Tila]

Well as was said, its not as if the healer is not dpsing at all, all vit would do is give the healer one or two extra GCD moves. If one or two GCD can account for a couple hundred tank dps, then thats one hell of a GCD.

Not to mention on warrior and drk, more damage = more self healing

[Dement]

Have you seen a White Mage AOE parse?



Trash pull prior to A3 all the way up to the Tail Screw add.
Watch a 100% CS WHM out-dps your BLM. Forget about tanks.

I'm not saying at the very end of the dungeon a healer would be #3 on the list, but for group pulls where you can survive 2 hits by yourself, a stun-locked mob will take as much damage as if there were 3 dps as opposed to 2 & a tank.

There's a chasm between trash pulls and bosses. If a tank isn't using melded accessories then they need to have 2 accessory sets, one mostly slaying and one mostly fending. A WHM will do way more damage than a slaying tank on large trash pulls through Holy spam, as such, a good tank would gear to allow the WHM more flexibility to cast. However, that same WHM isn't going to be able to do the same amount of damage while only attacking a boss in addition to curing higher damage attacks, splash damage on DPS, and performing any mechanics necessary. The tank on the other hand will have as close to 100% uptime on the boss as any other member on the team. In this case, the tank needs enough HP to survive the bosses' largest attack and a random auto attack afterwards... anything else should be put into STR to maximize DPS on the boss which will surpass what a WHM would be able to do if they tank had more VIT to allow them 1 extra GCD in Cleric's stance periodically.

[Phoenicia]

Have you seen a White Mage AOE parse?

I would worry about that if Holy wasn't nerfed to poop.

Hate to break it to you, but holy spam is no longer a very potent combo and WHM (and BLM) will always be behind SMN now.

Non-PLD tanks can pull REALLY close to the DPS (and lol ahead of NIN) in AoE if they know how to maximize their AoE. I used to switch between VIT for big trash pulls and STR for bosses. But I realized the difference is minor and all that I need to do as a tank is utilize CDs.

Also you spamming holy will stun the adds anyways so it doesn't matter if I wore VIT, STR or my swimsuit bikini for the whole 6s that the mobs are stunned.

Oh, the thing about Holy though is: Spamming it will drastically reduce the duration of the "stun-lock" since it'll clip after the half duration thing. And spacing out Holy to max out stun duration is a DPS loss. Make your choice.

[Iagainsti]

I can only speak for War, but I went 50 Vit/ the rest str for PVE. And str ring/ bracelet i90, i90 Vit ring and choker, i80 Vit earring until I get the savage Vit earring. Warriors want to gear crit>parry>det>skill speed despite baddies saying parry is useless( 20% off phys damage each hit, tyvm I'll take it) so I pick accessories based on maxing those stats. Currently 15+k hp, 22+k in defiance is more than enough and ACC seems to stack well on your left side for the most part. A good guide is ariyala's tool tip to maximize the secondary stats while gearing accordingly.

[Tila]

I can only speak for War, but I went 50 Vit/ the rest str for PVE. And str ring/ bracelet i90, i90 Vit ring and choker, i80 Vit earring until I get the savage Vit earring. Warriors want to gear crit>parry>det>skill speed despite baddies saying parry is useless( 20% off phys damage each hit, tyvm I'll take it) so I pick accessories based on maxing those stats. Currently 15+k hp, 22+k in defiance is more than enough and ACC seems to stack well on your left side for the most part. A good guide is ariyala's tool tip to maximize the secondary stats while gearing accordingly.

Correction, relatively low chance to block 20% of physical damage only.

Parry is garbage.

[Iagainsti]

Ahh, sure you're missing the raw intuition+awareness combo. Becomes a very efficient damage reduction. Allows you to stay in deliverance for ezpz stuff like b2b rapid severs to another good mitigation to fill out rotation and stacks for stuff like a4 tank busters and ravana ex hits. Parry is not garbage for wars, maybe garbage for pld or drk, but I don't play zzz tanks

[SirTaint]

Ahh, sure you're missing the raw intuition+awareness combo. Becomes a very efficient damage reduction. Allows you to stay in deliverance for ezpz stuff like b2b rapid severs to another good mitigation to fill out rotation and stacks for stuff like a4 tank busters and ravana ex hits. Parry is not garbage for wars, maybe garbage for pld or drk, but I don't play zzz tanks

Parry as a secondary is garbage. Base parry and parry from JAs are a different beast.

Also WAR is the easiest tank job to play at 60, if anything its the zzz job now. Counting to 5 is the new 1,2,3.

[Tila]

Ahh, sure you're missing the raw intuition+awareness combo. Becomes a very efficient damage reduction. Allows you to stay in deliverance for ezpz stuff like b2b rapid severs to another good mitigation to fill out rotation and stacks for stuff like a4 tank busters and ravana ex hits. Parry is not garbage for wars, maybe garbage for pld or drk, but I don't play zzz tanks

The parry stat has absolutely zero effect on raw intuition. Parry is always a flat 20%, no matter your parry rating. Since raw intuition is 100% parry, its unaffected entirely by parry rating.

[UlricCraft]

... Hate to break it to you, but holy spam is no longer a very potent

Non-PLD tanks can pull REALLY close to the DPS in AoE if they know how to maximize their AoE.

I love to inform you that you're wrong.
Sure a white mage got some damage reduced from Holy, but they compensate with Aero III in high-health mob fights, and Assize for more burst.
3+ mobs, White Mage is still king of DPS.

As for the clippling, only the second cast of Holy needs to be delayed by 1second. If it clips you lose 1 second. Drastic. :/

To keep it on-point:
Thank you for using cooldowns.
Thank you for using fending on trash.
Healers see health bars in %, not numbers. The longer it stays 100% the better, when you dip to 1hp, a Benediction is more valuable.

Everything regarding this topic has already been discussed in previous pages so I'm out.