FC Chest just gets raded, and GMs can do nothing.

[Rufalus]

This is not a theft because the FC chest is a shared resource to be used by members of an FC. GM intervention can't happen because rules were not broken.
I don't think it's really possible for a theft to take place, it's all self-regulated. The user withdrew items from a chest they were granted access to.

[Maracrea13x]

This is not a theft because the FC chest is a shared resource to be used by members of an FC. GM intervention can't happen because rules were not broken.
I don't think it's really possible for a theft to take place, it's all self-regulated. The user withdrew items from a chest they were granted access to.

Nail on the head!

[DarkDedede]

Well I mean the OP's complaint is just like handing a stranger the keys to your house and getting mad when they steal all of your stuff. SE already gave us the tools to prevent exactly this from happening and his FC leader apparently didn't make appropriate use of them. That's not SE's fault nor should SE waste GM manpower on policing this.

I think most of you are missing my point. Yes, it's disturbing that things were stolen, and that the GMs do not have the power to do anything, which basically means this type of behavior is allowed. Yes, it's a shame that the FC leader did not have the appropriate measures in place to prevent this from happening. It's also a bit concerning that this individual allegedly targeted other FCs as well. I suppose the devs can do with that information what they will. Even if new policies were put in place, it's not like they would go back and punish people that broke the new policies in the past. Everything that was stolen can be replaced.

However, I'm more interested in the fact the person that took the items were able to leave with parts that were bound to our FC. Since the parts were bound, it's not like they could sell them. Would he be able to use them on another airship, for a different FC? If so, then I'd consider that an oversight on the part of the developers. If this individual could neither use nor sell the parts, then I would assume he would be forced to discard them. If these parts have no use to anyone, outside of our FC, I really see no reason why they couldn't be returned. The FC that these parts are bound to should be in the item data, no? Therefore it wouldn't be difficult to find out where the parts came from. If not, again, that would be an oversight on the part of the developers.

[Galactimus]

Too bad that scenario is totally different from OPs case huh?

It's actually exactly the same thing only a different scale. In both cases its blatant, obvious, harm being dealt to an FC. It's no different than a well-respected, well-loved Officer suddenly deciding to destroy all of your high-ranked airships, stealing everything they can, destroying everything that's left, and kicking every member below them.


Yes, they didn't break a single rule. The even had "permission" to. That doesn't change that fact that GM's should have the power to investigate and perma-ban these players due to extremely immoral, destructive, behavior. It seems like I'm the minority here. It should not be something that anyone should be able to get away with, ever.


Just because there's a system in place that prevents theft doesn't mean nothing should be done when theft happens.

[OPneedNerfs]

It's actually exactly the same thing only a different scale. In both cases its blatant, obvious, harm being dealt to an FC. It's no different than a well-respected, well-loved Officer suddenly deciding to destroy all of your high-ranked airships, stealing everything they can, destroying everything that's left, and kicking every member below them.


Yes, they didn't break a single rule. The even had "permission" to. That doesn't change that fact that GM's should have the power to investigate and perma-ban these players due to extremely immoral, destructive, behavior. It seems like I'm the minority here. It should not be something that anyone should be able to get away with, ever.


Just because there's a system in place that prevents theft doesn't mean nothing should be done when theft happens.

Refer to Rufalus's post #61.

[joshdavis271]

It's actually exactly the same thing only a different scale. In both cases its blatant, obvious, harm being dealt to an FC. It's no different than a well-respected, well-loved Officer suddenly deciding to destroy all of your high-ranked airships, stealing everything they can, destroying everything that's left, and kicking every member below them.


Yes, they didn't break a single rule. The even had "permission" to. That doesn't change that fact that GM's should have the power to investigate and perma-ban these players due to extremely immoral, destructive, behavior. It seems like I'm the minority here. It should not be something that anyone should be able to get away with, ever.


Just because there's a system in place that prevents theft doesn't mean nothing should be done when theft happens.

something tells me you have trust issues

[Galactimus]

Refer to Rufalus's post #61.

And I'm saying it should change. Like FFXI, this type of behavior could be banned.

something tells me you have trust issues

It's called Justice for the deserving (^_^)

[Maracrea13x]

However, I'm more interested in the fact the person that took the items were able to leave with parts that were bound to our FC. Since the parts were bound, it's not like they could sell them. Would he be able to use them on another airship, for a different FC?

I think they can use them in another FC yes. I know when I dissolved my previous FC awhile back I was able to bring housing items from that house and place them in my new FC's house without any problems. They are not able to be traded or sold but are still completely usable by the person holding them. The rest of this would be nice but its coding and they are simply not going to do it.

[Nyerieri]

And I'm saying it should change.

I'm saying that you missed the point of the last 6 pages.

You see we have all these wonderful authorizations for the airship as seen below;



If you have trust issues, which it seems you do, put your airship parts you are not using, on your retainer (since you are the leader of a FC) and don't allow anyone to have access to the "Airship Registration / Dismantling" so no one can dismantle the current airship(s) you are using

[Maracrea13x]

And I'm saying it should change. Like FFXI, this type of behavior could be banned.

And I say again you like FFXI so much go play it. Every MMO changes, deal with it.