FC Chest just gets raded, and GMs can do nothing.

[OPneedNerfs]

Scenario
You've set your permissions perfectly. New members have zero access to your chest. One day you wake up to find an Officer that you've known since the start of the game has completely cleaned out your house of furnishings, booted everyone from the FC, and stole millions of loot from your FC chest.


Forum Answer: Oh well. We got what we deserved. No need to get a GM involved.

Too bad that scenario is totally different from OPs case huh?

[Galactimus]

Too bad that scenario is totally different from OPs case huh?

It's actually exactly the same thing only a different scale. In both cases its blatant, obvious, harm being dealt to an FC. It's no different than a well-respected, well-loved Officer suddenly deciding to destroy all of your high-ranked airships, stealing everything they can, destroying everything that's left, and kicking every member below them.


Yes, they didn't break a single rule. The even had "permission" to. That doesn't change that fact that GM's should have the power to investigate and perma-ban these players due to extremely immoral, destructive, behavior. It seems like I'm the minority here. It should not be something that anyone should be able to get away with, ever.


Just because there's a system in place that prevents theft doesn't mean nothing should be done when theft happens.

[OPneedNerfs]

It's actually exactly the same thing only a different scale. In both cases its blatant, obvious, harm being dealt to an FC. It's no different than a well-respected, well-loved Officer suddenly deciding to destroy all of your high-ranked airships, stealing everything they can, destroying everything that's left, and kicking every member below them.


Yes, they didn't break a single rule. The even had "permission" to. That doesn't change that fact that GM's should have the power to investigate and perma-ban these players due to extremely immoral, destructive, behavior. It seems like I'm the minority here. It should not be something that anyone should be able to get away with, ever.


Just because there's a system in place that prevents theft doesn't mean nothing should be done when theft happens.

Refer to Rufalus's post #61.

[Galactimus]

Refer to Rufalus's post #61.

And I'm saying it should change. Like FFXI, this type of behavior could be banned.

something tells me you have trust issues

It's called Justice for the deserving (^_^)

[Nyerieri]

And I'm saying it should change.

I'm saying that you missed the point of the last 6 pages.

You see we have all these wonderful authorizations for the airship as seen below;



If you have trust issues, which it seems you do, put your airship parts you are not using, on your retainer (since you are the leader of a FC) and don't allow anyone to have access to the "Airship Registration / Dismantling" so no one can dismantle the current airship(s) you are using

[Maracrea13x]

And I'm saying it should change. Like FFXI, this type of behavior could be banned.

And I say again you like FFXI so much go play it. Every MMO changes, deal with it.

[Nyerieri]

And I say again you like FFXI so much go play it. Every MMO changes, deal with it.

Galactimus can reference my post #34 on this thread about FFXI

[joshdavis271]

And I'm saying it should change. Like FFXI, this type of behavior could be banned.)

In FFXI if you were shouting and selling something for say, a mil gil and you take the money and not deliver, yes thats should be bannable,now in ffxiv if someone steals from your chest its your fault cause you set the permission to do so, besides the guy who robbed the chest, wilbe taken care of without the GMs. The community will take care of trash like this.

[Felis]

And I'm saying it should change. Like FFXI, this type of behavior could be banned.

Just make sure to have a chat agreement at hand

[joshdavis271]

It's actually exactly the same thing only a different scale. In both cases its blatant, obvious, harm being dealt to an FC. It's no different than a well-respected, well-loved Officer suddenly deciding to destroy all of your high-ranked airships, stealing everything they can, destroying everything that's left, and kicking every member below them.


Yes, they didn't break a single rule. The even had "permission" to. That doesn't change that fact that GM's should have the power to investigate and perma-ban these players due to extremely immoral, destructive, behavior. It seems like I'm the minority here. It should not be something that anyone should be able to get away with, ever.


Just because there's a system in place that prevents theft doesn't mean nothing should be done when theft happens.

something tells me you have trust issues