FC Chest just gets raded, and GMs can do nothing.

[Galactimus]

It might be a scumbag move, but he did nothing wrong. He had permission to take anything and everything. Doesn't matter if it's a new member or someone that waited 6 months.

That's the problem though. They may have done nothing wrong as far as "Game Coding" is concerned. However, GM's in past MMO's (including FFXI) had the authority to protect players from Immoral Behavior as well. They may not have broken an in-game "robot rule" but if someone did something for the sole purpose of causing grief (re: stealing, cheating, scamming) than a GM had permission to assist you. It didn't mean you would always get the result you expected but at the very least they would perform an investigation for you.

[Nyerieri]

That's the problem though. They may have done nothing wrong as far as "Game Coding" is concerned. However, GM's in past MMO's (including FFXI) had the authority to protect players from Immoral Behavior as well. They may not have broken an in-game "robot rule" but if someone did something for the sole purpose of causing grief (re: stealing, cheating, scamming) than a GM had permission to assist you. It didn't mean you would always get the result you expected but at the very least they would perform an investigation for you.

See the problem you have is you are comparing apples to oranges. In 11, for example we could sell items between each other and a smart person would have that documented in chat. Now that still exists in 14, but a free company is TOTALLY separate from selling an item or selling a run. (Which again, I remind you they still disciple people for not following through with the agreement that is written in chat).

[Galactimus]

See the problem you have is you are comparing apples to oranges. In 11, for example we could sell items between each other and a smart person would have that documented in chat. Now that still exists in 14, but a free company is TOTALLY separate from selling an item or selling a run. (Which again, I remind you they still disciple people for not following through with the agreement that is written in chat).

Rotten apples and rotten oranges can still be compared. As can FC logs, item logs, and chat logs. It's really not that difficult to find out that someone raided an FC's entire chest for personal gain one minute after joining. At the minimum a GM could easily issue a warning after investigating.

[Maracrea13x]

Rotten apples and rotten oranges can still be compared. As can FC logs, item logs, and chat logs. It's really not that difficult to find out that someone raided an FC's entire chest for personal gain one minute after joining. At the minimum a GM could easily issue a warning after investigating.

Why would they have to? You gave them access to the chest which implies that they are authorized to remove whatever they see fit from the chest. Dont want to risk it? Fine do not give them access.

[joshdavis271]

Rotten apples and rotten oranges can still be compared. As can FC logs, item logs, and chat logs. It's really not that difficult to find out that someone raided an FC's entire chest for personal gain one minute after joining. At the minimum a GM could easily issue a warning after investigating.

Lets just take all the rank settings away and let the GMs hold our hands, I mean GEEZ, There are some things people need to take care of on their own, and FCs should handle their own prblems and lock their chest up especially where you put the important stuff.