WAR love is out of hand. Twelve forbid the other Tanks stand out in any way.

[Phoenicia]

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Making Clemency instant makes it exactly like Equilibrium. How does that make the tanks more different?

And please, PLD is far safer than WAR. PLD is better than WAR in physical fights and DRK is better than PLD and WAR in magical fights. If someone is better than WAR in a certain fight, WAR isn't so "universal".

PLD OT capabilities are fine. They are actually perfect. PLD pulls ~800 DPS on a dummy. Multiply that by 1.11 from the slashing debuff and you'll get 888 (~900). That's barely 100 DPS behind WAR and DRK. PLD brings far more utility as OT than any of the other tanks.

PLD is fine as it is. This crying about PLD not being the tank of choice anymore seriously needs to stop.

[repoe]

These threads/posts complaining about warriors are out of hand.

theirs as many threads as i get tells from RMT in game

[mikudo]

Level all 3 tank classes problem solved.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

Oh look another pld is weak please buff us to be op thread

[Illya]

PLDs got so used to being the anointed chosen one godlike perfect OP MTs in all of ARR, now look at them running home crying to their mamas because the HW progression content has a lot of magic damage to emphasize the new tank job DRK.

[Praesul]

I don't know where this whole "PLD has always been godlike MT and now they're whining" crap comes from. After the rework, WAR has always been awesome at both MT and OT. You people are deluded lol. And this is coming from a WAR main.

[Naelle]

I think it's interesting that people are asking for balance in the tank jobs but the warrior community is obsessed with the idea of "MT". The tank role is currently not balanced. I'm sorry, but it's true. It really looks like warrior mains are salty because they always had to OT and continually bring that up. The whole point of wanting balance is allowing all three jobs to MT and OT equally well. Calm down, guys, a paladin buff doesn't mean you can't MT anymore. You can't honestly think things are okay right now, right?

[Tila]

Honestly, the balance issues among the tanks are nothing compared to some of the DPS and healer ones.

[Eye_Gore]

now look at them running home crying to their mamas because the HW progression content has a lot of magic damage to emphasize the new tank job DRK.

Hold on there chief. A lot of us don't know how to run, away that is. Don't group us all in there because of some sour grapes. I'm all good, keep on bashin em in the face with my shield and I'm happy. Only runnin this PLD is doin is with my mouth.

[Kaith]

The problem isn't so much that PLD is weak, it's that it is ill suited to the current endgame content. You have strict DPS checks and PLD is the weakest DPS out of the 3 tanks. Which would be fine if they made up for it on the defensive end but as all the major tank busters are magical, it doesn't.

Any tweaks would have to be minor otherwise if you ended up in a physical heavy endgame, PLD would then overshadow DRK. Stances off global cooldown, Shield Swipe off global cooldown and allowing just the Shelltron shield block to work on magic would probably be enough of a tweak (increase the recast of Shelltron if you have to). If they wanted to be ultra nice, make Shelltron not trigger on AA's as at the minute it suffers from being used up by AA's going out at the same time as the big hit you were trying to mitigate.

I'd also imagine WAR will get a minor nerf purely because when people are going into savage Alexander as WAR/WAR and throwing up DPS numbers comparable to actual DPS, it's going to grab SE's attention. That's not say I want that, I just see it happening.