Machinist need buffed

[Haxetc]

You and I both know that Hypercharge doesn't shed a light onto Foe Requiem. Even with a single mage in your group.

Requiem is a double edged sword whereas Hypercharge is not. While it might be good at boosting a few casters DPS, if resources are needed and requiem just spent the BRD's MP than the group is SOL. That's the point I was making. Also, in fights like A3S where both Healers get a damage down debuff in the last phase of the fight, Requiem loses it's benefit to only helping one caster.

[Odowla]

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[OneWingedSora]

whereas A1S and A3S can go in the favor of MCH.

There's no way a Bard shouldn't be outdpsing a MCH on A1S assuming similar skill level. Unless you can do 1032 on an 8 min+kill(3 jumps) while playing ballad, I will keep that thought.

[justinjarjar]

No class is doing terribly bad right now, most parsers show MCH with some of the best burst in the game (which helps majorly on some bosses). Some classes might need some small changes currently, but in no way are majorly under-performing.

[Lavieh]

Requiem

Obviously I would be an idiot to disagree with that but it would take a really inexperienced BRD to pop a full bar of Foe mid fight when the healers resources are starting running out or at times when they know TP will be an issue. As you learn a fight you learn the places where songs need to be played.

What I am trying to say is that we would have to tip things in MCH's favor pretty steeply in order to make the damage up utility on Hypercharge be the better dps gain. The overall utility of HC outshines that of BV though since you can HC and toggle promotion to still get provide the physical foe and double up on TP recovery. In progression fights I think we will find that MCH's superior resource management will outshine but whenever people start doing speed runs, I think that BRD will shine.

[NyssaElf]

The class doesn't need buffing. I mean personally ammunition buff would be nice, but yea that's not happening.
What I don't like and others have said. Hypercharge is ridiculous 5% compared to a nins 10% and they get a shorter cool down. I don't agree that needs to be fixed.

[MiruWest]

The class doesn't need buffing. I mean personally ammunition buff would be nice, but yea that's not happening.
What I don't like and others have said. Hypercharge is ridiculous 5% compared to a nins 10% and they get a shorter cool down. I don't agree that needs to be fixed.

1. The NIN needs to be in melee ranged where as your turret and be a ranged and do it.
2. It's a positional for NiN where as once again your turret is at range and will hit it no matter what.
3. Suiton is ST where as you can make the turret do a AoE debuff in bishop.

So imo I think the balance evens out.

[Shneibel]

The class doesn't need buffing. I mean personally ammunition buff would be nice, but yea that's not happening.
What I don't like and others have said. Hypercharge is ridiculous 5% compared to a nins 10% and they get a shorter cool down. I don't agree that needs to be fixed.

hypercharge is strong enough as it is, it is 5% but have longer duration than NIN TA, so it s even out

[MiruWest]

hypercharge is strong enough as it is, it is 5% but have longer duration than NIN TA, so it s even out

I think hyper charge debuff stays up for about 20-25 secs if I'm correct, not to mention how you can double dip into the debuff and mana ticks and get the most out of HC.

[Shneibel]

I think hyper charge debuff stays up for about 20-25 secs if I'm correct, not to mention how you can double dip into the debuff and mana ticks and get the most out of HC.

yup, as soon as the debuff is on, you can turn on promotion for a few mp/tp tick and turn off promotion again to refresh the debuff. I have never get into situation where I need to do this (hopefully never)

The time is about right, depend on turret's attack timing