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    Solver's Avatar
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    Alice D'arc
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 60

    Machinist need buffed

    My feelings on this topic is that MCH do not remotely have the Utilities that BRD's have. Not only does BRD have more utilities, it out performs my MCH. I feel overall that a BRD is a superior support role and overall does more dps then a MCH.

    Other factors such as choosing between having Quelling strike or Keen Flurry, not having a option of having second wind. The usefulness of a Brd between Mch is far to apart in my opinion.

    I feel to make the class more necessary in raiding would to give it a slight potency increase to upset the balance between having a BRD or MCh in the group. A BRD being a better support while MCh are support roie and but putting up more Dps. I am not looking for a huge increase, just enough for there to be a more usefulness of a MCH.

    What do you think?
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Machinist Lv 80
    I don't feel that bard is severely outperforming mch in performance or utility. Though I am a bit nettled on not having a second wind available but it's ultimately not a big deal. Both classes could use a bit of tweaking though, esp bard.
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    I agree with you that it is not severely outperforming MCH, but they are outperforming them. Adding Foe's is a group increase which can make or break for some groups early on. Not having that support ability and having a Dps difference between the two, it is like playing AST without the benefits of having cards.
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    MCH lays down the business. No.
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    Odowla Wetae
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    We're doing fine with a MCH. Also, Lucrezia killed A3s with one. That DPS check is tight, so....
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    Tiffany Thorn
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    We're doing fine with a MCH. Also, Lucrezia killed A3s with one. That DPS check is tight, so....
    I am so sick of hearing "MCN cleared [content]!" As if that alone justifies its very existence. Are people really too stupid to think past that single claim?

    Just because a party can clear something with a MCN on the roster doesn't mean it's fine and not deserving of adjustments.

    Learn how to fk'ing think!
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    Odowla Wetae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramath View Post
    I am so sick of hearing "MCN cleared [content]!" As if that alone justifies its very existence. Are people really too stupid to think past that single claim?

    Just because a party can clear something with a MCN on the roster doesn't mean it's fine and not deserving of adjustments.

    Learn how to fk'ing think!
    I mean, highest solo burst in the game, sustained DPS of a bard, moderately high skill-cap, and the class is pretty fun. Sounds fine to me. If anything they could make the turret affect Wildfire damage \o/
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    Ellunavi Sevald
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    Sargatanas
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    I mean, highest solo burst in the game, sustained DPS of a bard, moderately high skill-cap, and the class is pretty fun. Sounds fine to me. If anything they could make the turret affect Wildfire damage \o/
    Please Odowla you and I both know that MCH would be OP'ed at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    Please Odowla you and I both know that MCH would be OP'ed at that point.
    SHH DON'T TELL THEM
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    Teepo Egoist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramath View Post
    I am so sick of hearing "MCN cleared [content]!" As if that alone justifies its very existence. Are people really too stupid to think past that single claim?

    Just because a party can clear something with a MCN on the roster doesn't mean it's fine and not deserving of adjustments.

    Learn how to fk'ing think!
    Learn how to fk'ing play!~
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