Enjoy Summoner before it gets nerfed...

[Fyce]

Melee have burst. SMN have insane burst coupled with complete safety.

Melee have to time their entrance into a fight correctly. There is never any wrong time for a SMN to delete someone, and thus no thought needed to play the class.

Did you know that a single heal casted on a target receiving the SMN "you-are-dead" combo is often enough to prevent the SMN to succeed at killing someone?
Did you know that a single One Ilm Punch in the face can often make the SMN completly harmless until Aetherflow is back?

You don't seem to be aware of the amount of things that can go wrong during the SMN combo, making them completly useless after a failure (and after a success as well).

SMN in PvP are the best example of a bursty glass-cannon job which can get easily shut down, but very rewarding if allowed to succeed.

[Hamayumi]

Purify as soon as Tri-disaster hits and SMN burst will fail.

[Potatoes]

Warden's Paean blocks all 3 dots from Tri-Disaster
Proof: http://www.twitch.tv/blicen/v/8826841?t=13m09s

at the time marked, Paean is applied to Kaji, Kaji gets Tri-Disaster'd but there's no dots applied and Paean is removed. The streamer's debuff bar only has blind on it after the Ruin II, which is right over their TP.

[nickx]

Warden's Paean blocks all 3 dots from Tri-Disaster
Proof: http://www.twitch.tv/blicen/v/8826841?t=13m09s

at the time marked, Paean is applied to Kaji, Kaji gets Tri-Disaster'd but there's no dots applied and Paean is removed. The streamer's debuff bar only has blind on it after the Ruin II, which is right over their TP.

Pretty neat. I've been playing around with Paean myself in PvP, and although it can prevent sleeps and even tri-disaster apparently, I noticed that something as simple as a windbite can remove it. :/ I know the devs are still looking at this ability and wanting to make it more useful. Perhaps increasing the duration to a minute, or decreasing the long 3 second cast time would be a good start.

[Potatoes]

Pretty neat. I've been playing around with Paean myself in PvP, and although it can prevent sleeps and even tri-disaster apparently, I noticed that something as simple as a windbite can remove it. :/ I know the devs are still looking at this ability and wanting to make it more useful. Perhaps increasing the duration to a minute, or decreasing the long 3 second cast time would be a good start.

Yeah, it's pretty darn situational and tbh I think it needs a longer duration as well so you can prep it more ahead of time. I don't think it should be spammable though so 3 seconds is ok with me personally.

[Intaki]

Did you know that a single heal casted on a target receiving the SMN "you-are-dead" combo is often enough to prevent the SMN to succeed at killing someone?

This is the case with literally every single burst class. The only difference is when a SMN pops their cooldowns from a distance and nestled safely with their group they're just out cooldowns. When a melee does it, they're out of cooldowns and sitting right in front of the entire enemy team.

I'm aware there are a small amount of things that can go wrong for SMN. But there aren't many, and there are vastly more for the majority of other classes.

[kisada]

yeah i think one thing that makes this discussion kind of funny is that at any time, if someone heals my target just once, my kill combo becomes disrupted completely.

while it is definitely correct part of the lure of SMN doing all this is they maintain safe position from distance while emptying the clip, they also don't get as many toys as the melees do. so once i drop my skills, my impact as SMN is reduced to that of a very low dps/utility player.

it's all give and take between ranged and melees. i'm not saying that SMN doesn't have more in its favor than other jobs, but there is some baseline level of balance even if it might not seem apparent.

[Buff_Archer]

yeah i think one thing that makes this discussion kind of funny is that at any time, if someone heals my target just once, my kill combo becomes disrupted completely.

while it is definitely correct part of the lure of SMN doing all this is they maintain safe position from distance while emptying the clip, they also don't get as many toys as the melees do. so once i drop my skills, my impact as SMN is reduced to that of a very low dps/utility player.

it's all give and take between ranged and melees. i'm not saying that SMN doesn't have more in its favor than other jobs, but there is some baseline level of balance even if it might not seem apparent.

Yeah I agree, one thing balancing it is all the stuns melee players get. I often have to purify the first stun and then a valuable survival skill is on cooldown for a long time. A melee can use the last of their multiple stuns to mount and get ahead out of attack range if they can just admit to themselves when they're in a losing battle.

[Intaki]

I often have to purify the first stun and then a valuable survival skill is on cooldown for a long time.

Melee players have the do the same thing, except instead of just being afraid of stuns we also have to purify the 3 SMN dots that can just be reapplied with bane.

[Guesswhat]

Warrior and Summoner, please nerf! The melee LB is one thing but these guys have melee LB esque on cooldown.