Required rank on all gear

[Oscillate_Wildly]

It was a vague statement that was taken the wrong way. It was taken as "Optimal rank for everything will be phased out."

Instead Bay means that required rank will be added to items dropped from Instanced raids and similar activities while crafted gear will remain optimal.

And no, this has nothing to do with our QQing, it was miscommunication. I'm almost positive there was no intention to snuff out all optimal ranked gear.

[Cairdeas]

Sorry guys, it seems there was some miscommunication earlier on this, and it took awhile to clarify the situation. I've updated my original post in the thread and will copy it here for viability. This was speaking specifically to NM and other content-related gear, and not a blanket removal of the Optimal Rank system. I really apologize for the confusion my post caused!



I also added in details about the recipe changes, too (which can be seen in the dev1016 thread).

Thank you lord jesus!

Errr Bayohne

[Estellios]

Oh Bayohne, you card. Someone needs to proofread their posts a third time! You know how volatile things can be on this forum =P

[Oscillate_Wildly]

Thank you lord jesus!

Errr Bayohne

Shall we celebrate by wearing Linen Coatee sets on completely wrong Discipline/rank classes?
No, no, I jest.
BUT HURRAH.

[Zenaku]

It was a vague statement that was taken the wrong way. It was taken as "Optimal rank for everything will be phased out."

Instead Bay means that required rank will be added to items dropped from Instanced raids and similar activities while crafted gear will remain optimal.

And no, this has nothing to do with our QQing, it was miscommunication. I'm almost positive there was no intention to snuff out all optimal ranked gear.

i was joking btw :0 but thanks for the clear up.

i guess i never find the item i need for my level due to craft never making it. Ya i know i know people you going to tell me Level up a craft that what i'm doing lol.

@Arcell don't Quote on what i said what bay said was a miscommunication and what i said i stand they should be no optimal ranked for gear. Everyone game have this and it work just fine don't try and be something else when you everything else you do is the same. Let's start but in WoW/FFXI that would work because you can find the gear in "Dungeon" Drop by "Mobs" many "Quest" but in FFXIV everything would be made by the craft class. Which then lead to the issue of craft not making item because no one buying them due to people wearing 10+rank gear above them.

Which then make other issue it force me to A: Look for someone to craft "Buy the item" then pay the person top of buying all the item to make it for me.

B: Level up the craft myself and take me days and hour just to use that set of gear.

or

C: Just wear +10 Above gear due to no one selling it.

But w/e i can care less i'll just level up the craft and make the gear myself and my gf would do the other set of craft and we don't have to buy anything i guess lol. Seem like more work on a player i feel sorry for casual but then again they don't care what they wear so that not much of a issue.

[Lienn]

Sorry guys, it seems there was some miscommunication earlier on this, and it took awhile to clarify the situation. I've updated my original post in the thread and will copy it here for viability. This was speaking specifically to NM and other content-related gear, and not a blanket removal of the Optimal Rank system. I really apologize for the confusion my post caused!

I also added in details about the recipe changes, too (which can be seen in the dev1016 thread).

So...now i'm confused.

So crafted armors that require NM drops, like Silver Tricorne and Dodore Doublet will have rank restriction past 1.19 but the other common crafted items, canvas coatee, as example, will still have the optimal rank even after recipe change? Or does it affects only dropped loot, like Boar's Bane and Eternal Shade (that currently have optimal rank instead of required rank)?

If the rank restriction past 1.19 is just for NM drops it's not a problem at all...as soon as other common items keep the optimal rank system.

Also...the hempen double recipe example was TERRIBLE! >< Because hempen doublet and hempen doublet vest are 2 different items so if it was meant to show the old and new recipes it was expected to be from the same item ^^::

Could you clarify this for me please, Bay? ^^:

[Estellios]

They weren't meant to be the same recipe, they were picked because they were similar-ranked recipes.

And yes, only stuff that drops from NMs and stuff that is made from NM only crafting materials will become rank-required. Everything else will be untouched.

[Arcell]

Which then make other issue it force me to A: Look for someone to craft "Buy the item" then pay the person top of buying all the item to make it for me.

B: Level up the craft myself and take me days and hour just to use that set of gear.

or

C: Just wear +10 Above gear due to no one selling it.

But w/e i can care less i'll just level up the craft and make the gear myself and my gf would do the other set of craft and we don't have to buy anything i guess lol. Seem like more work on a player i feel sorry for casual but then again they don't care what they wear so that not much of a issue.

Again the crafting argument is pretty weak. The current state of the obnoxious requirements for crafting gear is a bigger part of the reason a lot of gear isn't being crafted.

Tweak the optimal rank system to have a higher penalty for out of rank and a greater bonus for on or above rank and you create the same kind of demand a rank requirement system does. People need the appropriate rank gear because it is a detriment to not wear it. Add this in with materia and simplified crafting and you'll have people making gear for all ranks on the market.

With low/mid rank gear being much cheaper to make after the changes I suspect more people will make it.

Also if you have trouble finding gear, joining a Linkshell does wonders. In mine at least we have people who love crafting that are more than happy to help others get the gear they need.

[Lienn]

They weren't meant to be the same recipe, they were picked because they were similar-ranked recipes.

And yes, only stuff that drops from NMs and stuff that is made from NM only crafting materials will become rank-required. Everything else will be untouched.

Ah, i see! Thank goodness! @_@ Bay's post got me really worried...but if its just involving NM-related drops its all good! ^^

But now what worries me is...coeurl won't ne NM, will it? >< IDC about the white coeurl being NM...but if the yellow one also is this would means every piece of coeurl gear (including my already beloved coeurl subligar) being with rank restriction... ; ;

Hopefully they will be common monster...so i can have as much coeurl stuff as i want without worrying about rank restrictions! @_@

[Zenaku]

Again the crafting argument is pretty weak. The current state of the obnoxious requirements for crafting gear is a bigger part of the reason a lot of gear isn't being crafted.

Tweak the optimal rank system to have a higher penalty for out of rank and a greater bonus for on or above rank and you create the same kind of demand a rank requirement system does. People need the appropriate rank gear because it is a detriment to not wear it. Add this in with materia and simplified crafting and you'll have people making gear for all ranks on the market.

With low/mid rank gear being much cheaper to make after the changes I suspect more people will make it.

Also if you have trouble finding gear, joining a Linkshell does wonders. In mine at least we have people who love crafting that are more than happy to help others get the gear they need.

Joining a linkshell does noting when post member are missing doing there own stuff or ask for you to get the item even if you paying them. But yes had people make gear for me and i even made gear myself before i reroll. But i guess SE know what there doing lol at least i hope over a few years of FFXI i losing hope day by day with FFXIV every being really made to play good.

I have my hope up