NIN -- how does everyone else feel we're doing?

[Uppers]

I do around 1160 - 1170 on Faust and monk does around 1260 - 1300. Monk numbers are higher due to elixer field being able to hit adds and ninjas don't have AOE OGCD. Oppressor is 890 for me and 920 for monk.



I don't think so. You need to add on the fact that Ninjas have Goad and Trick Attack. They should be lower than monk and DRG. Monk shouldn't be this low though. Right now nobody is even close to dragoons in terms of single target damage. There is a reason why almost every group runs DRG.

I don't see you mentioning chakra and dragon kick either. Both of which really help the party's survival; therefore, monks should be considered support dps as well with your logic.

[Bearrier]

I don't see you mentioning chakra and dragon kick either. Both of which really help the party's survival; therefore, monks should be considered support dps as well with your logic.

Chakra doesn't help party survival. I think Monk should be lower than DRG, but not this big of a gap. It's almost 80-100 DPS difference between Monk and DRG. Ninja is fine where it stands. Maybe add a little more damage with duality and DWAD, but it shouldn't be too big.

[Layke]

Chakra doesn't help party survival. I think Monk should be lower than DRG, but not this big of a gap. It's almost 80-100 DPS difference between Monk and DRG. Ninja is fine where it stands. Maybe add a little more damage with duality and DWAD, but it shouldn't be too big.

There's no reason the melee DPS shouldn't be near equal in terms of DPS. Each one brings a buff/debuff. Each one is useful.

[Uppers]

Chakra doesn't help party survival. I think Monk should be lower than DRG, but not this big of a gap. It's almost 80-100 DPS difference between Monk and DRG. Ninja is fine where it stands. Maybe add a little more damage with duality and DWAD, but it shouldn't be too big.

Yeah I meant mantra not chakra

[Typhoria]

I don't see you mentioning chakra and dragon kick either. Both of which really help the party's survival; therefore, monks should be considered support dps as well with your logic.

Lawd halp us. 30 Dps difference when he clearly states he doesn't have ilvl190 accessories due to accuracy issues. That's a gear development problem not a class one.