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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayanno View Post

    That scenario would not be possible at 60 because the spell does not scale to accommodate our increased HP totals, nor mobs increased(by number, not percentage) at 60.

    @Male: You should never be content with an ability that is useless, no matter if it's always been that way. No ability, cross class or native, should be useless. Even if it's a small niche use, every ability should be useful somewhere, otherwise we may as well just delete the abilities from the game, not just our hotbars.
    You aren't really supposed to be able to 3 man lvl 60 dungeons. Working as intended

    At this point you're going way off on a thing about useless abilities in general, and the game's design. That's not really relevant to the original topic, which argued that casters lost a utility by not having scaled heals, and as such needed a buff to regain balance.

    If we're gonna have the useless abilities conversation then there are plenty of other moves as well that need to be addressed, but physick would be near the bottom of the list. It's still useful for sch, which is what it was designed for. A wasted skill for smn, sure, but not nearly as much so as something like freeze or haymaker, where it was designed for a job that it's useless for.
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    (..) If we're gonna have the useless abilities conversation (..)
    Useless is not the same as "unused", and if you dont believe me (even when telling you i am main SMN playing ALL content) well... then its hopless to discuss. If i say as main SMN you are using it and you counter with "its a lie" - either i should stop arguing with you or well... you cant be serious then... if you dont need that skill, good for you, but many others are using it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Useless is not the same as "unused", and if you dont beliefe me (even when telling you i am main SMN playing ALL content) well... then its hopless to discuss. If i say as main SMN you are using it and you counter with "its a lie" - either i should stop arguing with you or well... you cant be serious then... if you dont need that skill, good for you, but many others are using it.
    no one said you are lieing, just that phys. is balanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Useless is not the same as "unused", and if you dont beliefe me (even when telling you i am main SMN playing ALL content) well... then its hopless to discuss. If i say as main SMN you are using it and you counter with "its a lie" - either i should stop arguing with you or well... you cant be serious then... if you dont need that skill, good for you, but many others are using it.
    Never said you lied about anything, but sure, let's go with this. You may use it, but that doesn't mean it's effective. In theory i could blizz1/freeze/scathe kite through solo content, that doesn't mean that freeze/scathe kiting is useful or efficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    you may use it, but that doesn't mean it's effective. In theory i could blizz1/freeze/scathe kite through solo content, that doesn't mean that freeze/scathe kiting is useful or efficient.
    Savage mode, old Coil T13 and so on... That skill saved life, but as not main class SMN you may never experience such situations because those situations are rare and should not happen... still you can change gear to less lifepoints when SMN and HEALER were working in team, Physik was doing just the edge for surviving some Bossattacks you would need 2 healers (with teamwork you can soloheal hard content)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3