Physick is too weak for lvl 60 casters?

[Ayanno]

*sigh*

If people's counter points are being made only with EX Primals/Coil/Alex Savage in mind....then stop. There is more content then the hardest content, and not everything happens perfectly every single time.

Also, yesterday during leveling roulette in Cutter's Cry, as SMN, the tank was a primadonna and bailed. I won't go into why, it's irrelevant. What I will go into is to say that I summoned Titan and we, the WHM, NIN and my SMN, proceeded to work our to the last boss. I used sustain every time, as well as Physick to keep my pet alive. Since I was synced at 40, the spell healed a decent amount of the pet's HP, as well as my teammates.

We get to the last boss, Chimera. There were a couple of "Ooops!" moments from all 3 of us where I had to use Physick to keep the NIN and WHM alive. At differing points, the NIN, WHM, and myself all had our HP drop into double digits. My physicks helped the healer recover. We didn't wipe at all, not on trash or the last boss.

That scenario would not be possible at 60 because the spell does not scale to accommodate our increased HP totals, nor mobs increased(by number, not percentage) at 60.

@Male: You should never be content with an ability that is useless, no matter if it's always been that way. No ability, cross class or native, should be useless. Even if it's a small niche use, every ability should be useful somewhere, otherwise we may as well just delete the abilities from the game, not just our hotbars.

[justinjarjar]

*sigh*

If people's counter points are being made only with EX Primals/Coil/Alex Savage in mind....then stop. .There is more content then the hardest content, and not everything happens perfectly every single time.

Also, yesterday during leveling roulette in Cutter's Cry, as SMN, the tank was a primadonna and bailed. I won't go into why, it's irrelevant. What I will go into is to say that I summoned Titan and we, the WHM, NIN and my SMN, proceeded to work our to the last boss. I used sustain every time, as well as Physick to keep my pet alive. Since I was synced at 40, the spell healed a decent amount of the pet's HP, as well as my teammates.

We get to the last boss, Chimera. There were a couple of "Ooops!" moments from all 3 of us where I had to use Physick to keep the NIN and WHM alive. At differing points, the NIN, WHM, and myself all had our HP drop into double digits. My physicks helped the healer recover. We didn't wipe at all, not on trash or the last boss.

That scenario would not be possible at 60 because the spell does not scale to accommodate our increased HP totals, nor mobs increased(by number, not percentage) at 60.

@Male: You should never be content with an ability that is useless, no matter if it's always been that way. No ability, cross class or native, should be useless. Even if it's a small niche use, every ability should be useful somewhere, otherwise we may as well just delete the abilities from the game, not just our hotbars.

But it is balanced correctly, no game should balance around solo play. Cutters is still in the dung category of we need no tank or dedicated healer (as long as you have some side skills it can be done ez) so not a great example. You must not understand balance if you think it should be around anything but group content at highest level. Never seen a game do otherwise nor should i expect them to, your counter argument is also as weak if not weaker, but glad you think phys. is not working as intended. (also skill bloat is becoming a problem in this game hope they make more skills useless or replace them to get rid of some of the bloat).

[Malevicton]

That scenario would not be possible at 60 because the spell does not scale to accommodate our increased HP totals, nor mobs increased(by number, not percentage) at 60.

@Male: You should never be content with an ability that is useless, no matter if it's always been that way. No ability, cross class or native, should be useless. Even if it's a small niche use, every ability should be useful somewhere, otherwise we may as well just delete the abilities from the game, not just our hotbars.

You aren't really supposed to be able to 3 man lvl 60 dungeons. Working as intended

At this point you're going way off on a thing about useless abilities in general, and the game's design. That's not really relevant to the original topic, which argued that casters lost a utility by not having scaled heals, and as such needed a buff to regain balance.

If we're gonna have the useless abilities conversation then there are plenty of other moves as well that need to be addressed, but physick would be near the bottom of the list. It's still useful for sch, which is what it was designed for. A wasted skill for smn, sure, but not nearly as much so as something like freeze or haymaker, where it was designed for a job that it's useless for.

[Yukiko]

(..) If we're gonna have the useless abilities conversation (..)

Useless is not the same as "unused", and if you dont believe me (even when telling you i am main SMN playing ALL content) well... then its hopless to discuss. If i say as main SMN you are using it and you counter with "its a lie" - either i should stop arguing with you or well... you cant be serious then... if you dont need that skill, good for you, but many others are using it.

[justinjarjar]

Useless is not the same as "unused", and if you dont beliefe me (even when telling you i am main SMN playing ALL content) well... then its hopless to discuss. If i say as main SMN you are using it and you counter with "its a lie" - either i should stop arguing with you or well... you cant be serious then... if you dont need that skill, good for you, but many others are using it.

no one said you are lieing, just that phys. is balanced.

[Malevicton]

Useless is not the same as "unused", and if you dont beliefe me (even when telling you i am main SMN playing ALL content) well... then its hopless to discuss. If i say as main SMN you are using it and you counter with "its a lie" - either i should stop arguing with you or well... you cant be serious then... if you dont need that skill, good for you, but many others are using it.

Never said you lied about anything, but sure, let's go with this. You may use it, but that doesn't mean it's effective. In theory i could blizz1/freeze/scathe kite through solo content, that doesn't mean that freeze/scathe kiting is useful or efficient.

[Yukiko]

you may use it, but that doesn't mean it's effective. In theory i could blizz1/freeze/scathe kite through solo content, that doesn't mean that freeze/scathe kiting is useful or efficient.

Savage mode, old Coil T13 and so on... That skill saved life, but as not main class SMN you may never experience such situations because those situations are rare and should not happen... still you can change gear to less lifepoints when SMN and HEALER were working in team, Physik was doing just the edge for surviving some Bossattacks you would need 2 healers (with teamwork you can soloheal hard content)