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  1. #81
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    Tamlin's Avatar
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    Tamlin Vangar
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    No, I really don't remember casters helping with their heals in "oh shit!" situations. I do remember SMN helping with Swiftcast + Revive, that one is great. But the heals? Never felt a positive impact.
    On the other hand I have seen BLMs/SMNs healing themselves because I "neglected" them for 20 seconds while they were in no danger of dying, unless they walk into AoE, and that death would not be prevented by their 400 more HP anyways. This not only caused me to overheal them, which is completely useless in this game, but also cost a chunk of DPS.
    I have several occations been able to save a pt from a full wipe - if the healer went down - due to having physick on my BLM, most often in low-lvl DR, but also in other content, in particular where there have been long breaks between the hard-hitting actions of a mob. So yes: there have been situations were it has been a positive impact for sure - even if you haven't experienced them youself.

    And for healers not even tossing a regen for 20 sec when a party-member have low HP: I have died due to ticks of <insert your pref. DoT here> where healer have not paid attention to the other party members due to "no AoE that can't be avoided coming up", and also saved my sorry ass several times by healing myself for those 400 HP (or 800-1200 if having to cast 2-3 physicks) that meant the difference between life and death on that next tick.
    So yes: the scaling of physicks is soarly missed.

    And to get the numbers right for a BLM, Physicks at ilvl 130 would heal for aprox 7,5 % of total healt = 450hp
    What I would wish for, is 7,5 % of current HP (don't have the numbers in front of me as in the office), but say 9k hp, that would mean 675 Physicks, or 10k hp = 750 Physicks.
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    Last edited by Tamlin; 07-28-2015 at 08:29 PM. Reason: 1000 char

  2. #82
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    Aegrus's Avatar
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    Aegrus Drache
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    Famfrit
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayanno View Post
    Last shot: I want you to show me a video of a group clearing actual content(no, dungeons don't count), I mean actual raids/primals where they benched there healers and brought along extra casters to do the healing. No, really, show me this video of someone doing this. ..........there isn't a video of a group clearing coil/EX primals with zero healers, instead using casters? Huh. Imagine that!
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    Since you CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO READ. They designed classes specifically to PREVENT THIS. You and the op are requesting that my scenario be a reality. Since you need me to be explicit, INCREASING HEALS FOR DPS ENCROACHES ON HEALER ROLES.

    Seriously, I'm done. You are just looking for an excuse to post and can't even to be bothered to read your own quotes. You just are trying to justify your bad attitude, and cannot be reasoned with.
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  3. #83
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    Firis Mistlud
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 61
    When in doubt, lustrate
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  4. #84
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tamlin View Post
    And to get the numbers right for a BLM, Physicks at ilvl 130 would heal for aprox 7,5 % of total healt = 450hp
    What I would wish for, is 7,5 % of current HP (don't have the numbers in front of me as in the office), but say 9k hp, that would mean 675 Physicks, or 10k hp = 750 Physicks.
    That would also affect Physick on Scholar. Just equip more mind or have a mind potion ready for the "oh no" moments.
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  5. #85
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    Limecat Indignatio
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    It does need to scale a bit better somehow, now that we have around twice the HP we used to.
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  6. #86
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Instead of it being 100% based on MND, maybe make it 80% MND and 20% INT based, so casters get a slightly scaling boost, without affecting SCH really (since SCH still has relatively high INT from ACN).
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  7. #87
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    Kitty Monsk
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    Diabolos
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Guys phsy. works fine. You guys act like second wind (a cooldown) does more than 1k healz or 2k healz with crit. Phsy. still as a lot more utility and sustainability. Stop moaning about a nonissue. Phys. works fine, period.
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  8. #88
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by justinjarjar View Post
    Guys phsy. works fine. You guys act like second wind (a cooldown) does more than 1k healz or 2k healz with crit. Phsy. still as a lot more utility and sustainability. Stop moaning about a nonissue. Phys. works fine, period.
    Really our equivalent to second wind is manawall/ward anyways, which scales with our hp (with people sitting around 11k hp that's a 2750 shield. Think of it as a preemptive heal, and we're actually in a better place than most other classes, especially since we don't have something like BfB). The comparison just doesn't exist.
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  9. #89
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    Really our equivalent to second wind is manawall/ward anyways, which scales with our hp (with people sitting around 11k hp that's a 2750 shield. Think of it as a preemptive heal, and we're actually in a better place than most other classes, especially since we don't have something like BfB). The comparison just doesn't exist.
    Wait so you guys are already fine, why is this thread a thing then? (am i just being trolled?)
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  10. #90
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by justinjarjar View Post
    Wait so you guys are already fine, why is this thread a thing then?
    My best guess? Because people want more than whatever they currently have, and will ignore relevant information to justify illogical and spontaneous desires.
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