Why does Enochian have to be a pain in the neck?

[Kenji1134]

If the concern is losing Fire IV casts amidst the madness, I say keep Fire IV/Blizzard IV gated behind Enochian, but make them instant cast with a cooldown. Not something terribly long. Maybe 6 seconds. This way you get use out of the spell without getting screwed over by cast time, BLMs get something they can use while moving that is not lolScathe, and can plan how to squeeze it into your rotation while giving a bit more leeway while also requiring some planning (you might actually be able to get Thunder III in there, to boot).
Since part of the problem is movement, why not change Enhanced Scathe to do something that help on that end? Have it add 5 seconds to AF/UI when used, or hell, have it extend Enochian in some way. Maybe both? >.>

Those ideas have already been suggested in the past, and though some such changes would address the current BLM issues, everything seems to be falling on deaf ears.

[Kailii]

What I think alot of people are conflating here is the difference between "This class is fun" with "This class does a lot of damage". Numbers wise its fine.

However in terms of playstyle, it has radically changed to using a strict rotation, almost as far as bard has had to change to being a 'caster'. I do think it gets conflated with Enochian being a problem, when what I really feel is the issue is Astral Fire. But in general blm went from a caster where you manged procs to F4 -> F4 -> F1.

In comparison to mnk/drg, I've swapped to mnk for now. Mnk is far easier and less stressful to play. GL can be annoying Form Shift helps to mitigate losing it, and from a playstyle aspect losing it doesn't suddenly change your rotation. As for drg, I am still leveling, but BOTD is more relaxed in that you should only really need to use the ability once, unless the fight resets. It's upkeep doesn't involve you hitting it, so if you mess up, it is usually available to restart.

[Kolsykol]

Well. I am making my decision tomorrow if I am to level my SMN/Scholar ( seriously, both dps and healer? Cheatz :P Not fair! ) or BLM as my main.
People seem awfully mixed on the new BLM. I just love the playstyle a lot ( I am at 53 with my BLM. SMN at 51 ). But I am terribly worried that I will end up at 60 with it, and just hate the Enochian rotation.

Do you still get to use procs as often as with the old rotation? Or is fire 4 just prioritized over all? I love proc based gameplay, it's just really satisfying getting dem procs and blowing things up .

[Hagwitch]

Honestly? Git gud. If you like having no wiggle room and having to know an encounter like the back of your hand and being punished severely for slip ups, then you'll have to stick with BLM the way it is now. It's a timer micromanage job now and I just don't see a mass revamp on the horizon.

It's not easy to play now. Like, at all. And some people can find that really fun. Others really, sincerely don't. And that's totally fine. SMN puts out great damage with about 90% less effort than BLM and is almost as flashy now along with being all magic themed. Try it out!

One thing I do think can't be fixed with any amount of git gud is Fire IV/Blizzard IV being interrupted if Enochian or AF/UI falls off mid-cast. I understand why it's made that way, but it's ugly and I hate it. If my Blizzard IV is .30 seconds from finishing its cast and THEN Enochian falls off it feels like it should finish anyway and just not refresh the buff. That way you get SOME damage.

[Malevicton]

There isn't really an annoying fight outside of Neverreap. Sorry but "git gud" is valid if you're having trouble; other people are clearly not having trouble, so the problem can't be the class itself.

If you just don't enjoy it, then... sorry? I enjoy it. Other people enjoy it. Tossing a ctrl+z on the entire new rotation because some people don't enjoy it as much is not a real solution. Maybe try a different job. They all got neat new toys, maybe you'll like one of them more.

[iro43]

I don't know if it's been brought up, but I just wish that enochian or astral fire/umbral ice falling off wouldn't -cancel- your BIV/FIV casts. I think that would go a long way to making it less punishing. Doing the same for Fire I except refreshing AFIII as long as it was cast while AFIII is up would similarly help ease the strict timing required.

[Blaste]

A NIN should never really lose Huton because of movement or mechanics, as they can refresh it whenever they are unable to attack an enemy via actually using the Huton Ninjutsu (whose 3-step lag issues aren't a problem when they can't attack anyway).

Not to mention an easy recover by using Kassatsu then apply Huton, what would really be OP is if Kassatsu actually increased our DPS by a larger percentage when in Huton, lol.

[Bigcat9715]

One thing I do think can't be fixed with any amount of git gud is Fire IV/Blizzard IV being interrupted if Enochian or AF/UI falls off mid-cast. I understand why it's made that way, but it's ugly and I hate it. If my Blizzard IV is .30 seconds from finishing its cast and THEN Enochian falls off it feels like it should finish anyway and just not refresh the buff. That way you get SOME damage.

This is what I truly hate the most. Im in mid-cast of casting Blizzard 4 then Enochian just falls and I have to pray that I make that last second cast or it's back to my 2.0 rotation until I can get it back. Also from what I've been hearing BLMs have been getting angry in AS1, and switching to SMN. So we might see a buff come next patch.

[Malevicton]

This is what I truly hate the most. Im in mid-cast of casting Blizzard 4 then Enochian just falls and I have to pray that I make that last second cast or it's back to my 2.0 rotation until I can get it back. Also from what I've been hearing BLM's have been getting anger in AS1, and switching to SMN. So we might see a buff come next patch.

BLM is really strong in AS1, and you can keep a perfect enochian rotation in it, even with resin bombs and moving the adds.

[Kathryn]

Well. I am making my decision tomorrow if I am to level my SMN/Scholar ( seriously, both dps and healer? Cheatz :P Not fair! ) or BLM as my main.
People seem awfully mixed on the new BLM. I just love the playstyle a lot ( I am at 53 with my BLM. SMN at 51 ). But I am terribly worried that I will end up at 60 with it, and just hate the Enochian rotation.

Do you still get to use procs as often as with the old rotation? Or is fire 4 just prioritized over all? I love proc based gameplay, it's just really satisfying getting dem procs and blowing things up .

No you don't get a spare second to hit your procs and you dont get as many of them and if you do get the procs using them is a huge risk of enochian dropping off, 5 years of playing BLM i've hung up my staff and picked up the book, sod this class and the heavy movement fights I don't play to get angry.