I dont get all the Bard hatred..

[Lewtskie]

So lemme see if I got this right, people were jealous of how easy it was to play bard and easily maximize and maintain an acceptable DPS flow, so now that SE decided to completely change the mechanics anyone that complains about having their class completely turned on its side are bad DPS, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact that people were spitefull to how easy it was to play and have fun with the bard class that they are now screaming at any person that says WM isn't just some "new mechanic" that bards can deal with...Do I have it about right?

If you'd seen in the past how many times people would say that they're glad Bards can't run around like Legolas cause it was annoying to watch or that they have to now actually put "effort" into the class you'd definitely believe the spite was real.

but omg mah salt

Just look at this one that comes in here and tries so hard to start fires. But really, this is just a tidbit of how salty people act towards anyone.

[Humorless]

bawww game developers don't want a class to play like how I want to play it

Pretty much.

[mb52139]

Pretty much.

Its ok for the devs to make these changes and decide how a class should play yes. but.. not after the playerbase spent years figuring out how to play that gamestyle... its just a screw you from SE.

[Aiselia]

Pretty much.

If they don't want it to play like that, they shouldn't have had it play like that for 2 years, plus have it still play like that for 52 levels now.

[AkashiXI]

Pretty much.

While I agree with you that many Bards over exaggerate the changes over the class, there's still merit to changing the core of a job after 2 years in the making. Your class (assuming you're a Monk main) has only gotten love from Square through the updates, and it's also incredibly similar to its 2.0 counterpart. Who knows, maybe because you're on the other side of the fence is the reason you lack sympathy.

[Humorless]

(assuming you're a Monk main)

Hmm? They nerfed GL application and Monk has been complete shit in dungeons for a long time lol. It was only good for raiding until Elixer field.

[RiceisNice]

Hmm? They nerfed GL application and Monk has been complete shit in dungeons for a long time lol. It was only good for raiding until Elixer field.

In otherwords, they expanded on your class' shortcomings by giving new abilities to fill it in, while maintaining their core gameplay and concept.

[dragoelete]

Hmm? They nerfed GL application and Monk has been complete shit in dungeons for a long time lol. It was only good for raiding until Elixer field.

i don't see the nerf to GL stacks anywhere it looks exactly the same to me... and if you are so bad at using GL pick a different job?
that is pretty much what you are saying to bards who mained it in 2.x and suddenly its dif so you say "you don't like the new stance so why don't you pick a different job?"

[Humorless]

i don't see the nerf to GL stacks anywhere it looks exactly the same to me... and if you are so bad at using GL pick a different job?

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This is what salt looks like boys.

that is pretty much what you are saying to bards who mained it in 2.x and suddenly its dif so you say "you don't like the new stance so why don't you pick a different job?"

Except you're overreacting like a drama queen. The playstyle is 95% the same. What the hell were you doing, randomly mashing A and D midfight? For the vast majority of the fight you stand still and do your rotation. There's a minor delay if you need to dodge mechanics and you need to adjust slightly if you need to move for a longer time, possibly turning it off if you're actually good at your class.

The only other adjustment is your magical "flow", meaning delaying your straight shot procs an extra GCD if you cannot respond in time which still doesn't make any difference in most cases because double procs are far from frequent. Annnd bloodletter weaving which is by no means different, it's still based on server DoT ticks meaning you can mash your BL key during the GCD to queue up procs like you did pre-3.0 or just use them one GCD later. Worst case scenario you waste a proc. So what? The only thing this does is lower your damage. If dps is an issue the class needs a tweak, not the mechanics or your nonsense "flow".

[aabe]

Yeah the people who complain about wasting procs might as well be top-end BRD players since being a top-end 2.x BRD was all about minmaxing those small gains it has a 2% chance of actually occurring, you're complaining about a slight DPS loss on something that is only a DPS loss in the 1 in 50 chance that it happens, and EVEN THEN if Empyreal Arrow comes up on your next GCD being able to straighter shot and use EA without clipping your GCD is a pretty healthy gain. And this DPS loss would happen even less frequently than pre-expansion because you're spending a lot more time doing things that aren't heavy shot at this point.
The only thing that feels unruly is that EA clips GCD every time you use it, and this is only because 2 years of 2.x taught people that clipping your gcd is the devil because they've never played BLM or NIN.